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To: kosta50; blue-duncan; the_conscience; wmfights; Dr. Eckleburg; Mad Dawg
It was only in retrospect that they began to extract all that was said and taught and put two and two together. But they certainly did not understand who Jesus was when they asked him if he will now "restore the kingdom of Israel." (cf Acts 1:6)

They may not have gotten everything, but you appear to deny what Jesus said to Peter:

Matt 16:17 : Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven.

4,291 posted on 03/18/2008 10:55:36 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper; blue-duncan; the_conscience; wmfights; Dr. Eckleburg; Mad Dawg
They may not have gotten everything, but you appear to deny what Jesus said to Peter: Matt 16:17 : Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven

Not at all. Christ told +Peter that he had an epiphany. But obviously +Peter did not realize what he said. None of the Apostes at that point treated Christ as God Incarnate; they did not pray to Him; nor did they worship Him.

Een after the Resurrection, just before His Ascension, not all believed, as Mat 28:16-17 tells us

In the Jewish mindset of the 1st century Middle East, it was unthinkable that any man, let alone a poor carpenter, could be God, or that it is possible for man to be God.

They also could not find any support of this in their scriptures. Jesus does not fit the "profile" of the Jewish meissiah. Out of seven, He fulfills only one—being Jewish.

Finally, calling someone divine other than the invisible God was punishable by death. Christians could not, even if they wanted to, preach divine Christ.

So, it was a leap of incredible faith for any man in those days in Israel to see Him as God-Incarnate, as one Person, fully divine and fully human, including His own disciples.

It is only later, towards the end of the century, that His divinity becomes fully revealed, which is why +John wrote his Gospel so late. Writing a Gospel that emphasizes Christ's humanity as a Jewish messiah was already covered by the other three Gospels. The revelation of His full divinity was the next step in seeing through the looking glass, dimly, and discerning what was in front of them all along.

4,340 posted on 03/19/2008 4:23:25 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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