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To: kosta50; Quix; MarkBsnr; Kolokotronis; stfassisi; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; blue-duncan; wmfights
FK: Why would that offend you so much. It doesn't seem to offend the Orthodox Research Institute. Here is an excerpt from The Name of God: Abba by Fr. Paul Tarazi. ...

First, on a personal note, I am not impressed with titles and positions. Let's not forget that such theological giants as Origen and Tertullian ended up falling into heresy. Don't forget that Arius and Marcion were bishops, and that many sho strayed were a Patriarchs of Contsantinople! (that's a lot higher than the very reverend Fr. Tarazi). No one is ever high enough not to be subject to error.

That's OK. I was just telling you who the guy was. I don't know this guy from Adam. I just found him. :) But on the bottom line, DESPITE what you think of the good Father, I still maintain that the use of "Daddy" is good and proper because of the familiar connection. It is personal and it is intimate. I truly believe that God wants to have this type of relationship with us rather than one where we are a drone reporting through ten layers of hierarchy to get to Him. I KNOW that my relationship with God is nothing like that.

I am also very suspicious of clean shaven Orthodox priests. There is a "message" behind it.

I did not know that was (potentially) suspicious.

More importantly, he is not a spokesman for the entire Church.

That's right. To me he is "some guy". :) But he DOES represent the website called the "Orthodox Research Institute". If you know, is this website a fraud?

You are creating a straw man, FK. His opinions are just that, theological opinions, Orthodoxy calls them theologoumenna.

Oh, come on Kosta! I found some guy from an official looking website and I fully linked to it. If it should be trashed then I gave you the opportunity. :) There is no sneakery on my part here. :)

I submit that no serious Orthodox priest would ever say that Christ called the Father "Daddy."

"Daddy" is an English equivalent. The point is a showing of intimacy and personality and family. The idea behind it is that God WANTS a personal relationship with us, His children.

4,230 posted on 03/17/2008 11:45:38 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper; All
Whoops. Sorry for the double post. Got an error message, etc.
4,231 posted on 03/17/2008 11:48:05 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper

Amen, amen, amen.


4,241 posted on 03/18/2008 6:26:35 AM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Forest Keeper; kosta50

Not that it should matter, but I’m with FK on this. I think “Abba” means “Papa” which in most of the US translates as “Daddy”.<p.And it is the very terror of the “consuming fire” of the OT that makes the divine permission to think of Him as “Papa”, that is the miracle, I think.


4,247 posted on 03/18/2008 6:47:21 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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