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To: kosta50; blue-duncan; the_conscience; wmfights; Dr. Eckleburg
The Apostles did not from the beginning believe one and the same thing. That much is certain. They do not lie when they make that obvious in their writings. We all grow in faith, and the Apostles were no different in that regard. Their faith was not "downloaded" complete and indexed as St. Paul's seems to claim. They did not really have a clear concept of just who Jesus, and their faith was not exactly rock-solid until much later.

But I thought that you all thought everything was sealed up at Pentecost, when you say your Church was born. Was your Church born in error? Or, when did your branch of God's Church start being "rock-solid"?

FK: I'm sure John's theology grew, as it does with all of us, but I maintain that his original oral teachings were consistent with his later writings.

If they were, they are nothing like the teachings of others.

Different intentions call for different tone and content. God wanted the book of John to be different in the style of its teaching, so it was. John doesn't contradict anything in the Synoptics.

3,989 posted on 03/14/2008 1:35:24 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper; blue-duncan; the_conscience; wmfights; Dr. Eckleburg
But I thought that you all thought everything was sealed up at Pentecost, when you say your Church was born. Was your Church born in error? Or, when did your branch of God's Church start being "rock-solid"?

It's along the lines of 1 Co 13:12. It was only in retrospect that they began to extract all that was said and taught and put two and two together. But they certainly did not understand who Jesus was when they asked him if he will now "restore the kingdom of Israel." (cf Acts 1:6)

3,995 posted on 03/14/2008 5:15:27 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Forest Keeper; blue-duncan; the_conscience; wmfights; Dr. Eckleburg
God wanted the book of John to be different in the style of its teaching, so it was

Yeah, and I suppose God wanted Mohammad to write the Quran.

4,014 posted on 03/14/2008 7:42:29 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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