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To: kosta50; Forest Keeper; wmfights; HarleyD; irishtenor; Marysecretary; Alamo-Girl; Quix
Sure, provided the Holy Spirit is truly indwelling someone. Just because someone "feels" the Holy Spirit within him or her doesn't mean it's the Holy Spirit. LOL!

Ah, but we've just made a giant leap forward because you now admit the Holy Spirit does indwell God's children.

Nothing speculative or questionable. The Holy Spirit indwells some people. Good. That's progress.

But everyone reads some sort of a bible and claims to have the eyes and the ears and the gifts. It's what they DO with them that says a lot more.

Again, I'm happy to see you in agreement with us Bible-believers when you admit that some people actually do have new eyes from God and new ears from God.

And we further agree that "what we do with them says a lot more." Exactly. What we do with those gifts says...who we are. They identify us. The gifts don't win us God's favor. They are the result of God's favor. And what we do with those gifts attests to God's benevolence in giving us those new eyes and new ears in the first place.

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God." - Eph. 2:8)

3,792 posted on 03/09/2008 11:59:12 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Forest Keeper; wmfights; HarleyD; irishtenor; Marysecretary
Ah, but we've just made a giant leap forward because you now admit the Holy Spirit does indwell God's children

No, I said "provided." Read it again, carefully.

Nothing speculative or questionable

Just because you say so, it must be true?

Again, I'm happy to see you in agreement with us Bible-believers when you admit that some people actually do have new eyes from God and new ears from God

Wrong, again, Dr. E. I said "everyone...claims" to have (some sort of spiritual) eyes and ears.

What we do with those gifts says...who we are. They identify us

Actions speak louder than the words, Dr. E.

They are the result of God's favor

That is pure speculation on your part. First you are assuming that what we do, what defines us, is divine in origin and, second, you are assuming that it is a favor.

That's about as credible as saying there are pink unicorns on Jupiter.

3,803 posted on 03/10/2008 6:38:05 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

In my experience . . . discernment is both a gift and a spiritual ‘muscle’ that needs developed, learned.


3,815 posted on 03/10/2008 8:38:41 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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