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To: MarkBsnr; wmfights; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Marysecretary; blue-duncan
It is for us to work out our salvation with fear and trembling. With the constant help of the Church and the Holy Spirit.

OK, so it that what the average life of a Catholic is like? Do you do as many works as you can, hoping that they are good enough to get you into Heaven, all the while in fear and trembling? Or, does the Church or the Spirit tell you that you are doing enough works? If so, then how do either tell you that?

Jesus came and died and was resurrected for us; He left His Church for us because what God was supplying the Jews with was insufficient for them.

So God created the Roman Catholic Church because His efforts with the Jews were coming up short? Yikes, so much for the phrase "God save the Church". It looks like God needed the Church to save Him. :) You are adding your hierarchy to the scriptures where it is totally unsupported by text.

3,791 posted on 03/09/2008 11:23:02 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper

We are not so bold as to be able to create our own theologies and wave them around.

***Do you do as many works as you can, hoping that they are good enough to get you into Heaven, all the while in fear and trembling? ***

We follow the teachings of Jesus and the Church. We are told that it is the state of our souls that count. Works for good are what is required. Works for evil must be repented from and sins confessed or our souls are in mortal danger. We must repent, confess our sins and receive grace through Penance.

***You are adding your hierarchy to the scriptures where it is totally unsupported by text.***

Jesus created His Church - and that is fully indicated by Scripture.


3,814 posted on 03/10/2008 8:38:02 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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