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To: MarkBsnr; kosta50; Kolokotronis; hosepipe; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; Quix; 1000 silverlings; ...
FK: ***Can you give an example of where the Evil One accurately quoted scripture?***

Then the devil took Him into the holy city; and he had Him stand on the pinnacle of the temple, and said to Him, “If you are the Son of God throw yourself down. For it is written, ‘He will give His angels charge concerning you,’ and, ‘On their hands they will bear you up, lest you strike your foot against a stone.” - Matthew 4:5-6 ***

The NAB link I found says this:

5 Then the devil took him to the holy city, and made him stand on the parapet of the temple, 6 and said to him, "If you are the Son of God, throw yourself down. For it is written: 'He will command his angels concerning you and 'with their hands they will support you, lest you dash your foot against a stone.'"

The reference is to Ps. 91:11-12. Here is the NAB:

11 For God commands the angels to guard you in all your ways. 12 With their hands they shall support you, lest you strike your foot against a stone. (emphasis added)

See the difference? satan left out "guard you in all your ways". This is a relevant omission. "Christ's ways" would be determined by God alone. They would not be the ways that satan was then suggesting. By leaving this part out, satan tried to make it look like God would protect Jesus no matter what He did. But that isn't what the source passage says. Theoretically, had Jesus fallen for the temptation and jumped, then no one would have protected Him because jumping was not "Christ's ways", that would have been "satan's ways". Therefore, I would say that satan materially misquoted the scriptures here. But of course, our Lord Jesus would have none of it.

3,663 posted on 03/08/2008 1:58:03 PM PST by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper

An omission of Scripture is what we are faced with all the time from some of our Protestant brethren. The cherry picking is endemic.

Unrelated Scripture is placed in juxtaposition and new theologies are constructed on a daily basis. I will grant that satan did leave out Scripture, but he quoted it as accurately as some Protestant fathers have.


3,668 posted on 03/08/2008 2:28:26 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Forest Keeper

Great catch, FK. Your excellent and accurate observation comes from reading the Bible and knowing whom you have believed.


3,672 posted on 03/08/2008 2:32:57 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr; kosta50; hosepipe; betty boop; Quix; 1000 silverlings

“See the difference? satan left out “guard you in all your ways”. This is a relevant omission. “Christ’s ways” would be determined by God alone. They would not be the ways that satan was then suggesting. By leaving this part out, satan tried to make it look like God would protect Jesus no matter what He did. But that isn’t what the source passage says. Theoretically, had Jesus fallen for the temptation and jumped, then no one would have protected Him because jumping was not “Christ’s ways”, that would have been “satan’s ways”. Therefore, I would say that satan materially misquoted the scriptures here. But of course, our Lord Jesus would have none of it.”

Frankly, I think you are making more of the comment or reading more into it than it deserves. In any event, here is what +John Chrysostomos says in his Homily XIII on Matthew:

“But mark thou his (the Evil One’s) folly, even by the very testimony which he produced. For while the testimonies cited by the Lord were both of them spoken with exceeding fitness: his, on the other hand, were chance and random sayings, neither did he bring forward on his par that which applied to the matter in hand. For that it is written, “He shall give His angels charge concerning Thee,” this surely is not advice to dash and toss one’s self down headlong; and moreover, this was not so much as spoken concerning the Lord. However, this for the time He did not expose, although there was both insult in his manner of speech, and great inconsistency. For of God’s Son no man requires these things: but to cast one’s self down is the part of the devil, and of demons. Whereas God’s part is to raise up even them that are down. And if He ought to have displayed His own power, it would not have been by casting and tossing Himself down at random, but by saving others. But to cast ourselves down precipices, and into pits, pertains properly to his troop.”


3,678 posted on 03/08/2008 2:47:50 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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