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To: MarkBsnr
Are you not required to be baptized?

Not to be saved.

Mark 1:8 I indeed baptized you with water, but he will baptize you with the Holy Spirit.

Are you not required to repent?

What happens first belief or repentance? Why would you be repentant of something you didn't believe.

We understand that Jesus shows us the Way. We must walk it. I understand that the Reformed do not believe that they need to walk anywhere. The belief is that they are already there.

Unfortunately for you it always goes back to works. It's to bad after all these threads and posts that you don't understand the non RC's. I can understand the reverse since the books containing your rules and regulations are thicker than Scripture itself.

3,630 posted on 03/07/2008 4:33:22 PM PST by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: wmfights; MarkBsnr
Unfortunately for you it always goes back to works. It's to bad after all these threads and posts that you don't understand the non RC's. I can understand the reverse since the books containing your rules and regulations are thicker than Scripture itself

That's because how we live is more important than what we preach. If you live a saintly life because you are saintly, you don't need to preach. Your actions will speak for themselves.

You can be quoting scriptures to me all day long, but unless what you peach matches how you live, it's a dead faith. Scriptures tell us that Christ not only preached the Good News, but also lived an impeccably virtuous life.

After all these posts the Protestants still don't get it that words are cheap and that we can all make ourselves into whatever we want others to beleve we are with words. But, in the end, it's what we do that matters.

Preaching proves nothing. Living does.

3,636 posted on 03/08/2008 5:38:49 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: wmfights

***Are you not required to be baptized?
Not to be saved.

Mark 1:8 I indeed baptized you with water, but he will baptize you with the Holy Spirit.***

That really doesn’t answer the question, wmf. I asked if a Christian needed to be baptized to be saved. Let’s see what Matthew says:

Matt 28:
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Then Jesus approached and said to them, “All power in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
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Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit,
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teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you.

I think that this command is pretty direct and we need to observe it.

***Unfortunately for you it always goes back to works. It’s to bad after all these threads and posts that you don’t understand the non RC’s.***

I understand Christianity and what Jesus instructed us to do. His commands are just that - commands. His instructions are just that - instructions. We don’t get to edit Scripture in the fashion of the Protestants. We have to accept it all. Jesus issued over 100 commands; they are not just suggestions.

***I can understand the reverse since the books containing your rules and regulations are thicker than Scripture itself.***

They are not mine; that is a viewpoint that we have that is normally very different than the Protestants. It is not MY Church; He is not MY God: the Church is His creation, and I am His creature. I am so very grateful that He has allowed me to follow Him and be a part of His Creation and His Church.


3,642 posted on 03/08/2008 8:13:33 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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