[conservonator]

It’s not “faith plus works” or “works alone” or “faith alone” it’s grace alone. Grace gives us the capacity to believe, fully, that is we have real faith and are capable or real, read grace enabled, works. Works are not a fruit or a result but an active part in the plan of salvation. Not works of the law, which is dead, but the works of grace, feeding the hungry, tending the ill, etc. what separated the sheep and goats? It wasn’t faith.

[Manfred the Wonder Dawg]

We agree! It’s grace alone that saves! I’ve told people that faith cannot save anyone (see this post:http://menofhonorministry.org/Discipleship/Salvation.htm ).

The object of one’s faith is what’s important. The Lord gives us faith to believe in Him and it’s His grace that saves us. None of our works contribute to being born again in Christ Jesus.

Oh, but then you contradict yourself by saying it’s grace plus works that save. By your use of the word “salvation” in that sentence, do you mean being converted or born again, justified in the sight of God? Or did you mean present-tense as in still saving?

If you think any works - tied to grace or faith or a goat in Iraq - help in the conversion from spiritually dead to spiritually alive means that you think Christ’s work was inadequate. That’s heresy, because He alone is sufficient.