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To: kosta50; MarkBsnr; Kolokotronis; stfassisi; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; blue-duncan; wmfights; ...
FK: "If God had designed our faith to be provable to all men, to whatever standard they demanded, then all men would believe."

And if God wanted men to fly... Try again something better.

If God had wanted men to fly He would have given him the airplane. So, He did. The Bible clearly says that without God-given ears to hear the scriptures (teachings of God) will be meaningless. Without God there is no proof that will be accepted.

Your faith should be sufficient to you because, obviously by your logic, God wanted it to be deeply personal and not provable to men unless God already made them believe, in which case there is no need to prove anything! :)

That doesn't follow. God uses us to witness to others. If my faith is true, it will speak for itself to the other person. My job is to share the Gospel and give a reason for the hope that I have.

But you are also making a giant leap of faith when you say that your faith is right because you "know" it is! Wow! That's rich, FK.

Where have I said that? You have been showed hundreds of scriptures by many people, reasonably proving the faith to be true, but you have rejected them. That's up to you.

3,554 posted on 03/06/2008 12:52:44 PM PST by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper; kosta50

***If God had wanted men to fly He would have given him the airplane. So, He did. ***

Are you saying that the Heavenly wing of UPS delivered their prototype airplane to Kitty Hawk?

***God uses us to witness to others. If my faith is true, it will speak for itself to the other person. My job is to share the Gospel and give a reason for the hope that I have.***

Why? If the Holy Spirit indwells whomsoever He will, of what use is your witness? If you witness to the elect, that is of no use, since the HS will indwell at His timetable. If you witness to the non elect, are you taunting them with what they cannot have?

***Where have I said that? You have been showed hundreds of scriptures by many people, reasonably proving the faith to be true, but you have rejected them. ***

There is a huge difference between the reality of the world and what you believe. If you believe something to be true, then shouldn’t you ought to state it that way?


3,555 posted on 03/06/2008 12:57:36 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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