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To: Forest Keeper

***Christ finished His role on earth toward the salvation of the elect. All of their sins were then paid for in full (within time). All of His actions were predestined by God, ***

Are you saying that Jesus is subordinate to God?

***Then I shutter to ask what your opinion is of the OT.***

An oral history of God trying to get the Jews to be saved.

***Nothing needs to top the Gospels. All scriptures are equally true.***

But some are more important. A historical list of begats is not as important to our beliefs as, for instance, the Sermon on the Mount.

***If it’s good enough for Jesus, I would think it was good enough for the authors of the Scriptures. :)***

If the KJV was good enough for Jesus, it’s good enough for us. :)


3,458 posted on 03/04/2008 7:38:28 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr

***If the KJV was good enough for Jesus, it’s good enough for us. :)***

I know for a fact that Jesus used the “Living Bible” almost exclusively :>) The KJV was second rate.


3,472 posted on 03/04/2008 4:29:31 PM PST by irishtenor (Check out my blog at http://boompa53.blogspot.com/)
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FK: All of [Jesus'] actions were predestined by God, ***

Are you saying that Jesus is subordinate to God?

No, I just mean that Christ did not come here to be a free-lancer. By never sinning He did everything God wanted Him to do. We know for sure that Jesus said He came here to obey the will of the Father, and we know that Jesus asked for the cup to be taken from Him. So, it sounds to me that the humanity in Jesus DID submit. However, He was also still God in the flesh.

FK: ***Then I shutter to ask what your opinion is of the OT.***

An oral history of God trying to get the Jews to be saved.

If "of God" is the same as "from God" then we have a good starting point. :)

FK: ***Nothing needs to top the Gospels. All scriptures are equally true.***

But some are more important. A historical list of begats is not as important to our beliefs as, for instance, the Sermon on the Mount.

When we say "important" we must ask "important to what"? It is natural for us to say that the issue of salvation is "more important" than the issue of some of the statistics given in Numbers. So, I don't argue with someone who says that the Gospels are "more important" for that issue. I'm just saying that God still wanted us to know those passages in Numbers, and they are still true. There are things to be learned that are important in other areas.

3,659 posted on 03/08/2008 12:49:30 PM PST by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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