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To: Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr; Kolokotronis; stfassisi; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; blue-duncan; wmfights
I have seen and heard God's work in myself, others around me, and in His creation itself. I know it is God when it matches what God's Holy word says, and other times in less specific ways

Oh, I see. First you read the Bible, then you see what God does, then you recognize that it is from God because the Bible told you so? So, when a Jew does a good deed, is that from God too? How about a Muslim? How about atheist? Was there God in Gandhi as well?

It has long been my belief that the personal relationship an Apostolic has is not with God at all. It is with the Church. The Church is the real center of the Apostolic faith, imo.

The Church is where the sacraments (mysteria) are administered. That is our relationship with God—through grace. And that is based entirely on our faith that the Holy Spirit partakes in the process.

3,350 posted on 02/29/2008 1:58:32 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; MarkBsnr; Kolokotronis; stfassisi; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; blue-duncan; wmfights; ...
Oh, I see. First you read the Bible, then you see what God does, then you recognize that it is from God because the Bible told you so? So, when a Jew does a good deed, is that from God too? How about a Muslim? How about atheist? Was there God in Gandhi as well?

There is only one true God. He uses His elect to do good deeds that are good in His eyes. Non-believers cannot do good deeds in His eyes. God only indwells His children. Since I am one of those I can recognize His work in me.

Many Muslims believe that murdering infidels is a good deed. However, they do not follow the one true God. Therefore, "Good" must be measured against what we are told is "Good" in the Bible.

3,550 posted on 03/06/2008 11:42:20 AM PST by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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