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The term itself, the Son of Man, the Son of God, and the Elect One, in Judaism is never associated with God. Jewish messiah is human, form the the tribe of Judah, of davidic genealogy, a favorite of God, but not divine.

But how can that be when the Gospels say:

Luke 24:44 : He said to them, "This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms."

John 5:45-47 : 45 "But do not think I will accuse you before the Father. Your accuser is Moses, on whom your hopes are set. 46 If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. 47 But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?"

You are only speaking of those who didn't know their own faith. True Judaism saw Christ coming.

Books were "horse traded" as Forest Keeper says (i.e. Hebrews and Revelation) as a matter of compromise which hardly smacks of divine infallibility.

Well, I said that in criticism of the idea. :) I don't agree that actually happened by the independent actions of men for a minute. I maintain that God was fully in control of the whole thing.

Yet all major Christian sects and even cults accept the canonization decided by the Church, even though they deny the authority of the same! When the Church canonized the Christian Bible, it may or may not have done so under the guidance of the Spirit.

An example from my last post to you, MD.

Kosta: The term itself, the Son of Man, the Son of God, and the Elect One, in Judaism is never associated with God. Jewish messiah is human, form the the tribe of Judah, of davidic genealogy, a favorite of God, but not divine.

FK: But how can that be when the Gospels say:

I wrote a verifiable fact about Judaism, namely what Judaism believes about the messiah. Are you saying that's not what they believe?

You the follow up with the following (and you are not alone, as many others have quoted thes same verse):

Luke 24:44 : He said to them, "This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms."

Which prophesy would that be, FK?

John 5:45-47 : 45 "But do not think I will accuse you before the Father. Your accuser is Moses, on whom your hopes are set. 46 If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. 47 But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?"

I am simply going to ask you to show me where Moses actually writes about Christ (I imagne His detah and suffering), as John claims.

I don't agree that actually happened by the independent actions of men for a minute

I suppose that's "truth" by fiat, FK.