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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop; hosepipe; Quix; 1000 silverlings; Mad Dawg; kosta50; stfassisi
“Your reply is very curious, dear Kolokotronis – because instead of receiving the promise as a Spiritual Truth applicable to all of us Christians you have evidently presumed that the promise applies only to me.”

Really? As I have noted before, and as StFA alluded to in his comments, I believe that you are deceived in your beliefs. That the piosities you have posted here are not of God but rather from this world. It may be that you are in your personal life, though living outside The Church(indeed living a life in knowing rejection of The Church)sincerely trying to imitate Christ. I have no way of knowing that. Assuming for the moment that you are trying to live such a life, then it appears to me that what is influencing you is not the HS but rather a demon. Sincere seekers after Christ often attract demons and in all honesty, to the extent that the seeker is estranged from God’s Holy Church, the “smaller” or “weaker” the demon, though the result of that demonic influence can be as destructive as that wrought by the most powerful of the Evil One’s fellow travelers.

Back in the 6th century there were two holy monastics who lived in the Palestinian desert called +Barsanuphius the Great and +John the Prophet. Their “sayings” were collected by their spiritual children, written down in question and answer form and have been passed down through the centuries to this day. They, being monastics who lived in the desolate wastes of the desert, had particular familiarity with all sorts of demons. Their advice regarding them is particularly prized among Christians. I offer you this one to think about:

Spiritual child: “Can the demons communicate anything good? And how does one discover that it is demonic? And what distinguishes it from something good from God?”

The saints answer: “To someone it might seem that he receives something good, but this is from the evil one for his deception. For every good thing which comes from the devil for the deception of a man, being precisely examined, turns out to be unreal; for the devil is a liar, and there is no truth in him (John 8:44), as is shown by the consequences of that (false good). His light ends in darkness, according to the Apostle’s word which speaks about diabolic heralds transformed into the servants of righteousness “whose end will be according to their deeds” (II Corinthians 11:15); and the Savior says: “From their fruit ye shall know them” (Matthew 7:16). If you investigate with understanding and judgment, you will find in the false good (which comes) from the devil, there was not even a trace of good, but either vainglory, or disturbance, or something similar; but the good which comes from God always increases enlightenment and humility of heart and gives a man quietness.

But when, out of ignorance, we suffer in something from the deception of the evil one, and later we recognize in this a temptation, then let us call ourselves and hasten to Him Who is powerful to do away with this temptation. One should know that to some the difference (between the good of the devil and that of God) is understandable from the very beginning; while to sinners, only at the end (of the temptation), just as a skilled master in gold work can take gold (in his hand) and tell before it is tested with fire of what sort it is, while an unskilled one does not find this out until it has been tested with fire.”

Catechumens today often are given one or more copies of the “words” of these monastic saints. There are many reasons for this, but among the primary ones is to forearm the catechumen for spiritual combat with demons. Westerners sometimes have a hard time with this. Of course, among the Evil One’s greatest accomplishments is convincing people tat he doesn’t exist.

3,011 posted on 02/25/2008 2:45:20 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; hosepipe; Quix; 1000 silverlings; Mad Dawg; kosta50
“”Back in the 6th century there were two holy monastics who lived in the Palestinian desert called +Barsanuphius the Great and +John the Prophet.””

Thank you for posting what they said.

It is of extreme importance to know the tactics of the enemy. It’s not the Hollywood version everyone seems to have been brainwashed to think. The devil is cunning!

Blessed Father John Hardon said this about the Demonic lie

“”The Basic Demonic Lie. The most fundamental untruth which the devil has sown in the minds of modern man is the denial of genuine freedom.

What the evil spirit does not want us to believe is that our freedom depends on the truth. Christ teaches us just the opposite. We are first to know with our minds what God expects of us. We must use our free will to direct the mind to seek and find the will of God. Then, and only then, are we truly free to use our liberty of choice in submitting our wills to the will of the Almighty. This is what the Savior meant when He told us, “You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free”(John 8:32).

By these words, Our Lord means that He came into the world to teach us the truth. Once we know that, we are in a position to use our free will to choose. In other words, our wills can be enslaved if they do not know what God wants us to choose. But if we are duly enlightened by Christ in knowing what to choose, we have true freedom; we have the liberty to choose what we are expected to choose on the way to our eternal destiny.””

BTW,
Sorry I private messaged this to everyone by accident

3,016 posted on 02/25/2008 3:12:23 PM PST by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: Kolokotronis; Alamo-Girl
It may be that you are in your personal life, though living outside The Church (indeed living a life in knowing rejection of The Church) sincerely trying to imitate Christ. I have no way of knowing that. Assuming for the moment that you are trying to live such a life, then it appears to me that what is influencing you is not the HS but rather a demon.

Good grief, Kolokotronis, how on earth did you manage to connect those dots??? A-G, last I checked, hadn't rejected the Church! That would be to reject Christ, and that she could never ever do!!!

You can take my word for it. Or not. Your judgment in this redounds on you.

3,028 posted on 02/25/2008 6:23:44 PM PST by betty boop (This country was founded on religious principles. Without God, there is no America. -- Ben Stein)
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To: Kolokotronis; betty boop; hosepipe; Quix; 1000 silverlings; Mad Dawg; Dr. Eckleburg; stfassisi
Assuming for the moment that you are trying to live such a life, then it appears to me that what is influencing you is not the HS but rather a demon.

As I have said before, it is a very great blessing indeed to be falsely accused for Christ's sake.

Blessed are ye, when [men] shall revile you, and persecute [you], and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great [is] your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you. - Matthew 5:11-12

I love God - Father, Son and Spirit. I have known Him for a half century. I believe Him and I trust Him.

He is not a hypothesis. He is not a demon.

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. – Romans 8:38-39

My Father, which gave [them] me, is greater than all; and no [man] is able to pluck [them] out of my Father's hand. – John 10:29

For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day. – 2 Timothy 1:12

Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. – Philippians 4:7-8

So please understanding there is nothing you can say or do that would make me stop loving God or trusting Him - or that would separate me from Him in any way.

We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error. - I John 4:6

To God be the glory!

3,057 posted on 02/25/2008 10:18:50 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Kolokotronis; Alamo-Girl; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg
then it appears to me that what is influencing you is not the HS but rather a demon. Sincere seekers after Christ often attract demons and in all honesty, to the extent that the seeker is estranged from God’s Holy Church, the “smaller” or “weaker” the demon, though the result of that demonic influence can be as destructive as that wrought by the most powerful of the Evil One’s fellow travelers.

lol.

Matthew 11:18, Luke 7:33, John 10:20. And a house divided against itself cannot stand.

3,105 posted on 02/26/2008 9:24:59 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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