T_c: If this were the case then God could never had revealed himself. This has never been the position of the Church
Wrong. The Church always taught that God is incomprehensible, invisible, immutable, eternal, etc., in other words something other than creation.
God condescends to reveal himself mediated through the categories of the human mind...God is so very different from the ‘categories’ of the human mind that He isn’t even ‘one’ the way we usually think of ‘one’*** If this were the case then God could never had revealed himself. This has never been the position of the Church. God condescends to reveal himself mediated through the categories of the human mind...
Yes, God did condescend (finally, after the Jews failed Him over and over), by taking on the human nature and appearing to us as a rather unlikely man, poor, born of a teenage unwed mother, almost as a reminder than that our fancy should not "create" God the way we want Him to be.
BTW, the Old Testament God was abything but condescending.
and not that we can utterly know his essence but we certainly are capable of knowing of his nature...
That's an oxymoron. Nature and essence are one and the same thing. We can enver know His essence/or nature.
otherwise we could say nothing about him.
What we can say about God is what the believers hold was revealed. No single word can describe Him, nor can a thousand words descirbe Him. Nothing can describe Him.
But there is really very little we can say about God as He really is.
I referenced the Bible. I know you reference the Bible when it fits your purposes and trash it when it hurts but I don’t engage in such incoherent logic
Nothing in the bible says anything that you concocted.
I don't trash the Bible. I call it the way it is. I don't worship it as some do.
kosta: But, that’s not our theology, as t_c claims.
t_c: My post showed the logical conclusions of holding to the freedom of man and it still holds, to your chagrin
Your logical conclusion is wrong. It does not accurately describe our theology.
I am very surprised to read this from you, tc. As Kosta point out, we are utterly incapable of knowing God's essence/nature. This is because, quite simply, God is the Being Which is the Source of being... Ο ΩΝ. We who are beings with natures could never, ever, know or understand or share in that. His uncreated energies, however, we do perceive and we can experience and we can become united with. If this were 500 years ago, I could understand you not knowing this, but virtually all of this has been available to Christians for more than 1500 years. Palamite theology, which forms all of this into an understandable whole has been available in the West since the 14th century. tc, there is no earthly reason why you should ascribe to the theology of The Church, but before you presume to characterize it, you ought at least to become marginally familiar with it.