[wmfights]

Then there is a problem of credibility of such personal experiences. When challenged, the usual answer is "I swear I have" as "proof." Making such extraordinary claims without extraordinary evidence or proof is foolish, self-serving and self-cenetered, and most of all not convincing.

If you don't see the truth of it I can't make you. However, the number of people you can look at who are changed is extraordinary in and of itself. That alone should indicate something has happened.

[kosta50]

If you don't see the truth of it I can't make you.

None has been able to show me why I should believe their story. They have no proof.

However, the number of people you can look at who are changed is extraordinary in and of itself. That alone should indicate something has happened

Yes, by all means, I agree. The key word is something. That could be a whole buffet of things.

[MarkBsnr]

People are changed by a whole bunch of things, including life experienced over time.

I was changed by travelling to various countries in the performance of my job duties, and getting to meet various people and experiencing their cultures.

I was changed by an emotionally violent divorce.

Neither of these are proof of (or against) God.