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To: Alamo-Girl
If belief in some or all of Enoch would make a person "heretic" as you suggest, then Peter, John, Paul, Matthew, Luke, and Jude would all be "heretics" because of their direct and indirect references to Enoch. And all of the above Scriptures would have to be "eliminated" or "destroyed" as stfassisi suggests.

Ditto for Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Origen and Clement of Alexandria. They would be heretics along with Tertullian and anyone else who found a smidgen of truth in Enoch. And like Tertullian, most of their works would also have to be "eliminated."

Indeed, if Peter were found a heretic for believing Enoch about angels chained under darkness until judgment and citing it in his epistle - then the foundation of Matthew 16 for the supremacy of Rome based on Peter as a rock like Abraham - but now deemed "heretic" - would melt away.

Enoch is a theological "catch 22" for the Catholic Church underscored by hard archeological evidence from the Dead Sea Scrolls. The carbon dating of the copies found there show that Enoch was in currency and used and believed at least 200 years before Christ and through the writing of the Gospels and Epistles - all the way up until the Church decided to eliminate it (Philastrius et al.)

BTW, for my Protestant brothers and sisters in Christ reading along here - the word from the scholars is that Enoch was in oblivion to the West at the time of Martin Luther through 1775. Further, that they relied on the Jewish "canon" for the Old Testament and the Jews had since the second century A.D. (Simeon ben Jochai et al) also "eliminated" Enoch because of its clear references to the Messiah as more than the earthy king they expected and other prophesies in Enoch which would have pointed to Jesus Christ as the Messiah.

INDEED!

Though I wouldn't recommend holding one's breath waiting for assent to the facts you so clearly stated. All RELIGIONS of man have warehouses full of rationalizations to insulate them from facts as we have seen hereon redundantly.

Thanks big, LUB,

2,693 posted on 02/22/2008 7:47:21 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
Indeed. Thank you so very much for your encouragements, dear brother in Christ!
2,704 posted on 02/22/2008 9:55:04 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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