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To: stfassisi; kosta50; Kolokotronis; MarkBsnr; Mad Dawg; Dr. Eckleburg; hosepipe; Forest Keeper; ...
Of course they picked it up, stfassisi - it is an authentic ancient manuscript rejected by the powers that be in Judiasm and Christianity! These are new guys peddling new ideas so embracing forbidden authentic secrets gives them an aura of respectability albeit utterly false. They are mystics selling their wares which always look better couched in authentic ancient manuscripts.

It is like new age Kabbalah-ists who claim the writings of Jewish mystics as their own. Also false. Jewish mysticism consists of closely held secrets passed on by oral teaching. The term Kabbalah itself means 'receiving' because a person allegedly cannot understand it by reading what is available, whatever it is it must be passed on verbally. Sound waves allegedly are part of their mysticism. The phrase "those who know don't tell, and those who tell don't know" applies. That is also Zen teaching, btw. LOL!

If you want to throw the baby out with the bathwater, then fine.

I am not "promoting" Enoch. Read it if you want or not if you want. The Catholic Church makes their translation of "Henoch" available to you.

Rather, I'm using it here as "Exhibit A" to show that the claim of the Catholic Church that the church always and everywhere believed thus and so is patently empty.

2,672 posted on 02/22/2008 2:08:55 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
“It is like new age Kabbalah-ists “

The new age movement blended into Christianity “IS” the protestant reformation.

There was new age thought that was fought against by Saint Irenaues and others,but “new age” is a movement was brought about by people like John Calvin who was guided by evil that denied the full Bodily presence of Christ in Eucharist.

You have no pre reformation history or any denial by any holy person to support the denial of the Eucharist being the literal Body and Blood of Christ.

The FACT is that every single early Church father without even one single exception believed this and All of the Church Fathers who gave you Bible canon believed this.

I would be willing to suffer for others to become Catholic and have Faith in His Eucharistic Presence.

That is how confident and strong my faith is.

2,688 posted on 02/22/2008 5:59:36 PM PST by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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