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To: hosepipe

***Jesus was/is the door to the sheep pen(John ch 10).. Those that hear his voice and follow him (OUT of the sheep pen) are the flock(called OUT ones i.e.”church”).. Those in the sheep pen are pen mates.. i.e. clubbers.. This metaphor is rich and meaningful.. and explains a lot.. ***

The metaphor is erroneous. There is no Biblical mention of various types of sheep - just sheep and goats. The Sermon on the Mount (or on the Plain) says nothing about clubber sheep.


2,562 posted on 02/21/2008 8:32:50 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr; Alamo-Girl; betty boop
[ The metaphor is erroneous. There is no Biblical mention of various types of sheep - just sheep and goats. ]

You are wrong.. The word mentioned is sheep pens/corrals/holding cells.. The metaphor in (John ch10) is of sheep pens of which the door to the pens=>>(Jesus) calls them out.. (of the pens).. What is not mentioned is the goat pens.. I believe goat pens are implied.. i.e. atheism, Buddhism, Islam, Hindus etc.. The sheep follow his(the Shepard's) voice.. making the metaphor intact..

I didn;t mention the goat pens but I think they are implied since there ARE goat pens(churchs/temples/synagogues/meeting places.. i.e. religions).. The subject though is SHEEP pens.. which are mentioned.. The sheep pens are NOT treated as legitimate but as aberrations to following the Shepard voice....

2,577 posted on 02/21/2008 10:50:23 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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