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To: blue-duncan
Kosta:“God has no reason to test anyone.”

BD: Of course He does....Deut 8:15-16, Psalm 26:2, Psalm 139:23...

BD, I am very well aware of the existance of sections of the Bible (Job is certainly one of them) which say that God is testing us.

Nevertheless, God has no reason to test us. We believe God is omnisceint and doesn't need to "find out."

In all instances of biblical mention of temptaton or testing it is used for the same end: a moral message. Somoene is used as an example for others to learn. So, on what basis do you differentiate testing and tmepting?

2,480 posted on 02/20/2008 5:29:52 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50

“a moral message. Somoene is used as an example for others to learn.”

These examples are not moral messages for others but tests of the individual’s commitment and loyalty. When they were going through the testing they had no idea of being used as examples.

Hbr 11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten [son],

Jam 1:12 Blessed [is] the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.

1Pe 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:

The difference between testing and temptation is in the intent of the initiator. When God subjected Jesus to hunger in the desert it was to test him in his reliance on God but when Satan tempted him in the same situation it was to sin by relying on himself to perform a miracle to satisy his personal hunger.


2,490 posted on 02/20/2008 6:13:37 PM PST by blue-duncan
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