***While I strongly disagree with their views and believe it is heretical in nature, there is a consistent pattern of how they arrived at it. However, their view is built upon Cassian’s point of view that was considered heresy by the Roman Catholics at one time.***
What is the basis of your judgement on what is heretical and what is not?
***It is an idolatry nonsensical doctrine that Catholics can’t even keep straight; raising Mary and the Church far higher than our Lord Jesus.***
No it is not. You have no proof nor do you have sufficient evidence.
***Catholics can’t even define what it means to venerate something**
We can and we do.
*** It doesn’t surprise me to see the Roman Catholics slowing moving back towards the erroneous teachings of the Orthodox because they can’t figure out simple concepts like “a chosen nation”.***
Huh? Can we pull together a coherant post please?
I realize your FREEPMAIL was likely tag team . . . something or other given your buddy was bowing out for whatever reasons . . .
However, your . . . presentations on this thread against Protty’s . . . are as . . . whatever as anything Dr E or I have ever written regarding the RC edifice.
I shall yet again thicken my hide and laugh uproariously when next the wailing and whining starts over some of our posts.
Prissy fierceness, theoretically, to me, is not a microgram’s worth more saintly than the rough and tumble kind.
The Church viewed Cassian's teachings as heretical. Shouldn't that be sufficient?
You have no proof nor do you have sufficient evidence.
What evidence do I need? I'm not the one who sits in judgment. I'm merely stating venerating statues made with hands is idolatry. Let him who have ears hear.
We can and we do.
So, what is the meaning of venerate?
Can we pull together a coherant post please?
Sometimes I think people can grasp certain concepts. The Orthodox view was built on a synergistic model that believed in man's will to change his life. Their touted saint is none other than Saint Cassian who had a great influence on the Orthodox view. On the other side was the Latin who branded (at least initially) Cassian as a heretic, favoring Augustine's view of salvation as a gift from God. After all, it does state that in scripture although few actually believe that it is a GIFT; instead thinking they did something (had faith, was baptized, etc.). Few look upon the church/Church as the "chosen" nation of God. Instead most veiw it as the "chosing" nation of God.