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To: Dr. Eckleburg; stfassisi; MarkBsnr; the_conscience; blue-duncan; HarleyD; wmfights; ...
You invest the title of "mouthpiece of God" in fallible men when God tells us His "every word is pure" and leads to a correct understanding of His will and our lives within that will

And what is the source of this "pure" word of God? The Bible? The same bible that exists in thousands (literally) of versions, in different text-types, of different length of chapters, with all the omissions or deletions or additions or errors? Why, next thing you will tell me will be that God drop-shipped KJV to Luther, Calvin and Zwigli with instrustions how to interpret it. LOL! Talk about dark ages! Get real.

2,119 posted on 02/15/2008 2:37:44 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Dr. Eckleburg; stfassisi; MarkBsnr; the_conscience; blue-duncan; HarleyD; wmfights
And what is the source of this "pure" word of God? The Bible? The same bible that exists in thousands (literally) of versions, in different text-types, of different length of chapters, with all the omissions or deletions or additions or errors?

You should remember that the people who officially stated the word of God was pure was the Church. Surely you don't disagree with them?

2,131 posted on 02/16/2008 12:55:46 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: kosta50; HarleyD; wmfights; blue-duncan; Forest Keeper; the_conscience; Alamo-Girl; Quix; ...
next thing you will tell me will be that God drop-shipped KJV to Luther, Calvin and Zwigli with instrustions how to interpret it.

Why, yes, God was kind in that regard, too. The Bible does come with instructions.

"These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so." -- Acts 17:11

Now this presupposes that our minds have been renewed by the Holy Spirit. In which case, we will read the words and understand them, comparing Scripture with Scripture. If not, the words will remain ink on a page and not much more.

The problem is that some men have been given ears to hear and eyes to see and a new heart with which to understand the inspired words of God, and some have not.

If our minds have been renewed by the Holy Spirit, we will read the Scriptures and know of our salvation by God's unmerited gift of faith in Jesus Christ.

"The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever." -- Psalm 12:6

"The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever." -- Isaiah 40:8

"Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." -- Matthew 24:35 and Luke 21:33

"But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you." -- 1 Peter 1:25

I believe the Lord has done as He promised. He has preserved His word through all ages and turmoil and deceit and darkness, even when some corrupted men chained the Bible to their altar to prevent the world from reading the words of God and knowing the truth which sets men free.

2,151 posted on 02/16/2008 12:37:06 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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