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To: kosta50; irishtenor; blue-duncan; Alamo-Girl; the_conscience; HarleyD; Quix; wmfights; ...
There is nothing here to suggest that anyone but His disciples were in the mountain. All this says is that He saw the crowds and went into (eiV) the mountain, it doesn't say He went to them, or that they followed Him. It does say that His disicples followed Him and caught up with Him, and He becgan to speak to them. We don't know where the crowds were relative to where Jesus was. But we do know that His disciples were with Him and thye heared Him.

??? No one but the apostles heard the Sermon on the Mount?

Where do you get this stuff?

Yet this error does fit with the absurd amount of power you invest in "other Christs." No wonder you so easily dismiss the Scriptures if you don't think they were written with your ears in mind. And now you even deny the ears of thoses the Bible says were actually present.

Have you read the concurrent verses in Luke 6?

"And he came down with them, and stood in the plain, and the company of his disciples, and a great multitude of people out of all Judaea and Jerusalem, and from the sea coast of Tyre and Sidon, which came to hear him, and to be healed of their diseases;

And they that were vexed with unclean spirits: and they were healed.

And the whole multitude sought to touch him: for there went virtue out of him, and healed them all.

And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God..." -- Luke 6:17-20

It's even clearer in versions like the NASB...

"Jesus came down with them and stood on a level place; and there was a large crowd of His disciples, and a great throng of people from all Judea and Jerusalem and the coastal region of Tyre and Sidon,

who had come to hear Him and to be healed of their diseases; and those who were troubled with unclean spirits were being cured.

And all the people were trying to touch Him, for power was coming from Him and healing them all.

And turning His gaze toward His disciples, He began to say, "Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God..." -- Luke 6:17-20

Cheer up, Kosta! God willing, Christ was addressing the Sermon on the Mount to you, too.  

2,039 posted on 02/13/2008 11:13:02 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Thank you so much for sharing your insights and those beautiful Scriptures, dear sister in Christ!
2,053 posted on 02/14/2008 7:14:07 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; irishtenor; blue-duncan; the_conscience; HarleyD; Quix; wmfights
Where do you get this stuff?

Verse 14. Are you going to tell me He means the crowd when He says "You are the light of the world?" Context, Dr. E, context.

Yet this error does fit with the absurd amount of power you invest in "other Christs."

First we Orthodox don't have "other Christs." Second, your opinion of the Church in this a particular instance doesn't is uirrelevant because this is my opinion as seen in context, and barating the Church on this occasion adds nothing to proving he was calling the crowd the 'light" of the world.

If you are looking for error, look not farther than the Protestant Deformation.

Have you read the concurrent verses in Luke 6?

The same way I read all of the bible. Luke says one thing and Matthew says another. That's why the chapters are not called "Matthew's Chapter accoridng to God" but simply "Accoridng to Matthew. There is a reason for that...it's Matthews version.

Try comapring Matthew's genealogy of Jospeh with Luke's. They can't even agree on Josphe's father's name, let alone the rest of the genealogy (different names and number of ancestors!). And Mark's "Great Commission" (the part that is not in older manuscripts, imagine that!), doesn't match Matthew's. That's how the whole bible is.

Cheer up, Kosta! God willing, Christ was addressing the Sermon on the Mount to you, too

I am cheerful, Dr. E. Despite all the "quirks" the Gospels do proclaim a beutiful message that, if followed, makes us and the whole world a lot nicer, and hopeful

2,056 posted on 02/14/2008 7:45:28 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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