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To: stfassisi; Dr. Eckleburg
When you adopt the view that God planned for the the poor to be poor and God looked with favor and gave grace to people of wealth and success in business ,you can clearly see that the founding fathers of this country would have the audacity to be involved in trading and owning slaves and think that God is going to bless america and its future

Yes, STA, that is exactly what Islam teaches. This is the kind of belief that justified slavery and probably to this day, in Calvinistic subconscious, justifies slavery. After all, God must have wanted it, otherwise there would have been no slaves ever.

But, they can simply say "now God doesn't want slavery any more" and so we don't approve of it. The moody, angry, always changing God of Calvinism. And the pizza parlor bomber in Israel says "God wants me to kill these infindels..." and feel perfectly "justified" and "honored" to do so. Same mindset, opposite team.

1,905 posted on 02/11/2008 7:19:51 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; stfassisi; Dr. Eckleburg

Did God plan for this fellow to be blind or was he just a victim of circumstance and Jesus, just opportunistic?

Jhn 9:1 And as [Jesus] passed by, he saw a man which was blind from [his] birth.

Jhn 9:2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?

Jhn 9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.


1,909 posted on 02/11/2008 7:46:20 PM PST by blue-duncan
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