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To: wmfights; Kolokotronis
think we can go back to when the church first started having the power of the state behind it to find persecution of Christians who did submit to it's authority. No matter which group suffers it is wrong and it certainly would not justify doing it to them when the roles were reversed.

Power corrupts, and the Founding Fathers had the wisdom to create a system of checks and balances precisely in order to avoid any one particular group or indiviual from attaining too much power. They did this because they learned from a harsh lesson. With power comes self-righteousness (pride). Besides, most people are unaware of goings on because most of the power is exercised behind the scenes accessible to the public.

Your lamenting that Evangelicals did nothing to stop these atrocities is understandable, but wrong. I may have very strong beliefs that the EOC and RCC are wrong in large areas of doctrine but I would never want any harm to come to them and I know of no other Christians who would

Well, same here. But I also never said they wished any harm. But power brokers may not be as sentimental as an average Evangelical. Bottom line is: whether it's Orthodox Greece, or Orthodox Serbia, or even Orthodox Russia, we are more prone to see them as adversaries of the Protestant west than as fellow Christians and often choose their adversaries as our friends and allies.

What have we done about the Muslim slaughter of Christians in Sudan? Where is the outrage in the Christian world? Where are Christian knights defending fellow Christians. I will tell you where they are: in Kosovo helping Albanian Muslims carve out yet another Muslim state in Europe!

1,880 posted on 02/11/2008 8:41:54 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
Here is a very good article along with a group of other great writings on Distributism

Catholicism, Protestantism, and Capitalism: Part I
http://distributist.blogspot.com/2007/01/catholicism-protestantism-and.html

Enjoy

1,884 posted on 02/11/2008 10:11:39 AM PST by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: kosta50; Kolokotronis; Uncle Chip
Power corrupts, and the Founding Fathers had the wisdom to create a system of checks and balances precisely in order to avoid any one particular group or indiviual from attaining too much power. They did this because they learned from a harsh lesson. With power comes self-righteousness (pride).

We don't always disagree! ;-0

But power brokers may not be as sentimental as an average Evangelical.

I would have said right minded rather than sentimental, but again we agree.

Bottom line is: whether it's Orthodox Greece, or Orthodox Serbia, or even Orthodox Russia, we are more prone to see them as adversaries of the Protestant west than as fellow Christians and often choose their adversaries as our friends and allies.

I don't agree. I think the majority of Born Again Christians don't really think about them other than as a fringe group of Christianity. The EOC is similar to Judaism in that it has been very insular (I don't mean in beliefs). The EOC is not very well known to most Christians not because they would not be interested, but rather because it has not done much to make itself open to them. I suspect that part of this is because the more open the EOC becomes to us Bible thumpers the more we would witness to your members.

1,926 posted on 02/12/2008 8:39:47 AM PST by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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