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To: Forest Keeper

***He does give us gifts He does not give to those who are not His children***

So who are they that He has created that are not His children? His dogs? His cats? His hamsters? His rotifers? His algae?


1,786 posted on 02/09/2008 6:05:58 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr

Many are his creation who are not his children.


1,788 posted on 02/09/2008 6:07:41 PM PST by irishtenor (Check out my blog at http://boompa53.blogspot.com/)
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To: MarkBsnr; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg
FK: ***He does give us gifts He does not give to those who are not His children***

So who are they that He has created that are not His children? His dogs? His cats? His hamsters? His rotifers? His algae?

God told us plainly about the subset of all people who are His children. Those who are not His children are all the rest. For example:

Luke 20:34-36 : 34 Jesus replied, "The people of this age marry and are given in marriage. 35 But those who are considered worthy of taking part in that age and in the resurrection from the dead will neither marry nor be given in marriage, 36 and they can no longer die; for they are like the angels. They are God's children , since they are children of the resurrection.

John 1:12-13 : 12 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God.

John 11:49-53 : 49 Then one of them, named Caiaphas, who was high priest that year, spoke up, "You know nothing at all! 50 You do not realize that it is better for you that one man die for the people than that the whole nation perish." 51 He did not say this on his own, but as high priest that year he prophesied that Jesus would die for the Jewish nation, 52 and not only for that nation but also for the scattered children of God, to bring them together and make them one. 53 So from that day on they plotted to take his life.

John 13:33 : "My children , I will be with you only a little longer. You will look for me, and just as I told the Jews, so I tell you now: Where I am going, you cannot come.

Rom 8:16-17 : 16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children . 17 Now if we are children , then we are heirs — heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.

There are more of course, but I think this makes the point. In every single case, there is a distinction between some who are God's children and some who are not. There can be no confusion. That the saved are God's children, and the lost are not is a theme running throughout the NT. There are just too many verses to interpret that idea away.

BTW, I went rotifer fishing once, and caught me a big one too. He must have come in at just over 0.7 mm or so. :)

1,995 posted on 02/13/2008 2:10:09 AM PST by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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