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To: wmfights; Kolokotronis; Uncle Chip
He is a navy seal. With the training he has received he isn't on the sidelines

Navy Seals get a break too. :) Any deployment is classified. Seals, like the rest, undergo continuous training, standowns if something goes wrong, and learning new techniques, acquiring new equipment, etc. It's not Hollywood. No one is on the mission 24/7/365, except when you are on the mission. There are no Mondays or Saturdays or eight hour-work days.

He is one of the finest young men I've ever had the pleasure to know. He graduated from college, had a good job the war started and he signed up as an enlisted man

Sort of like Pat Tillman. Great sacrifice. Let us pray that he makes it through this conflict safe and sound. But we need to remember how our establishment betrayed Pat Tillman's patritoism and used his untimely and unjust death at the hands of his own troops as a propaganda tool.

This also reminds me of the pathetic and shameful circus that was made with Private Jessia Lynch and the lies that were sent out into the public about the heroism she later denied.

Has anyone been prosecuted for such lies? In the case of Specialist Tillman, some heads rolled because of the high profile he had, but in Jessica's case, she was simply used and then discarded when she told the truth.

Hopefully, this young man will serve his country without a glitch. But serving the country is independent of politics; supporting the country's foreign policy conducted by fallible men and women is not a prerequisite for serving the country. Nor do fallible men and women have a monopoliy on patriotism. (besides, most of them never served).

1,666 posted on 02/08/2008 5:09:30 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Kolokotronis; Uncle Chip
Let us pray that he makes it through this conflict safe and sound.

Thank you. Let's pray for victory while were at it. :)

But we need to remember how our establishment betrayed Pat Tillman's patritoism and used his untimely and unjust death at the hands of his own troops as a propaganda tool.

What a great example to take us back to our theological debates. ;0

Why do you think the initial reports about how he died were wrong? I think it is symptomatic of any large centralized hierarchy. Protecting the reputation of the organization becomes more important than the truth. The few individuals who do seek to proclaim the truth are quickly marginalized in order to protect the organization and the bureaucracy, which the organization "can't live without".

I think this perfectly describes how churches that became a part of the state changed. Once that happened the desire to proclaim the truth became secondary to control of the laity. Any who dared to speak up, or sought to reform the church, when they found error were quickly marginalized.

1,688 posted on 02/08/2008 10:07:19 PM PST by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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