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To: Campion
Do you believe priests are "another Christ?"

THE AMAZING GIFT OF THE PRIESTHOOD

And that as such, a man...

"becomes a priest through the power of Jesus Christ operating through the normal channels of his Church. Orders produce an ontological or real change in the one ordained. Once consecrated he is no longer a lay person and he is no longer exactly like non-priests. He has received a charism that consecrates him to continuing Christ's prophetic and sacramental ministry."

Can anyone raise the bread and wine and have it transform into the "actual body and blood of Christ?"

Or is this astounding ability to change matter only possessed by "another Christ?" Which means that the offering for Christ's sins can only be transmitted by "another Christ" who has been "ontologically changed" to render the bread and wine into Christ Himself for the forgiveness of sins?

And thus there is no individual forgiveness of sins within the RCC. Forgiveness has to take place by the actions of "another Christ" through the "sacramental ministry."

1,540 posted on 02/07/2008 1:33:18 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I can show you half a dozen sites with equal number of schoalrs attesting that Textus Receptus is flawed and that Sinaiticus and Vaticanus, despite their lack of polish, represent copies closest to the original scriptures (which were not polished by all accounts).


1,552 posted on 02/07/2008 2:16:47 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

***And that as such, a man...

“becomes a priest through the power of Jesus Christ operating through the normal channels of his Church. Orders produce an ontological or real change in the one ordained. Once consecrated he is no longer a lay person and he is no longer exactly like non-priests. He has received a charism that consecrates him to continuing Christ’s prophetic and sacramental ministry.”***

It is all of, for, and by Christ. We are ‘made in the image of Christ’, and we must imitate Christ. Unlike the prancing, dancing, shouting, posing snake oil salesmen that posture across the stages and screens of the nation, it is of, for, and by Christ.


1,619 posted on 02/08/2008 10:40:07 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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