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To: Uncle Chip; kosta50
“I believe that God honors the way that those English, that you malign, have taken those Greek Scriptures, kept locked away for centuries in those Greek monasteries, and disseminated them unselfishly into all the languages of the world than the way the Greeks wouldn’t, couldn’t, didn’t and won’t, can’t, and still don’t. LOL”

Locked away in Greek monasteries? That’s absurd. Even you don’t believe that. The Gospels and Epistles are and have been for 2000 years, in every Orthodox Church for everyone to read; and you know what, Uncle Chip? Our people can and could and did read them. And what did you Anglophones pass out? Twisted translations of the scriptures we Easterners gave you designed to support your revolt against the Church of Rome! And now what does Western Christianity bring to the world? Support for Mohammedanism, destruction of Christian churches and the slaughter of their people. And right along side? “The Holy Spirit is doing a new thing!” Sin is no longer sin! The Western, especially American, female hierarchs and their limp wristed fellow travelers proclaim the sacredness of sodomite “marriage” while Protestant American leaders like Bush assure Mohammedan devil worshiping emirs that the American people love and respect their cult! And to prove it, we’ll defend the barbarian Turks’ practice of stabling animals in Orthodox Churches in Turkey and converting them to public urinals in northern Cyprus; we’ll prepare for war against Russia, plan attacks on Greece and Bulgaria and Serbia and Romania if they move to defend Orthodox Christians in Kosovo against the depredations of Saudi financed KLA jihadis; we’ll support anyone EXCEPT the Maronite, Melkite & Orthodox Christians of Lebanon (that just leaves Bush’s beloved Mohammedans, UC); we’ll subsidize Fatah homicide bombers to the tune of $500,000,000.00 of taxpayer money! My God, the Africans are so disgusted they are sending holy missionaries here to try to salvage something from the Sodom & Gomorrah the West has turned into since the Protestant revolution.

Yeah right, Uncle Chip, you American/Western Protestants have a lot to be proud of.

1,480 posted on 02/07/2008 6:11:47 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis
Twisted translations of the scriptures we Easterners gave you designed to support your revolt against the Church of Rome!

Gave???? I laugh --- the Greeks only let loose of them when the hordes of Islam began to invade the east and destroy those Byzantine Churches and everything in them. It was only then that all those Greeks began sending their manuscripts to the west for safe-keeping.

And you criticize the KJV translators for taking this Received Greek Text and translating it into the English??? What were they supposed to do with it -- stuff it away for another thousand years like the Greek Orthodox did??? Where in God's name was your Greek/English or Greek/German or Greek/anything translation for all those and these years???? in limbo??? in your imaginations???? Did you think that God ordained salvation only for the Greeks????

And now today the Greek Orthodox Church has abandoned that very Greek Text that they gave to the West and that was read in all their Greek lectionaries in all their Greek churches for all those centuries. And they have now abandoned that traditional Received Greek Text and adopted the two most corrupt manuscripts in history -- Vaticanus B and Sinaiticus. And the EO has the aqudacity to brag about Tradition -- What happened to that Traditional Greek Text?

1,483 posted on 02/07/2008 6:45:15 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Kolokotronis; Uncle Chip; kosta50
The Gospels and Epistles are and have been for 2000 years, in every Orthodox Church for everyone to read; and you know what, Uncle Chip? Our people can and could and did read them.

One of the arguments I keep seeing is that 95% of world was illiterate through the dark ages. Are you now saying that wasn't the case?

Yeah right, Uncle Chip, you American/Western Protestants have a lot to be proud of.

Shame on you.

Those terrible Protestants have brought freedom to the world. There is no other nation in the history of man that has been as exceptional as America. We are the first nation to declare in our founding documents that our rights are given by God, that all men are created equal. We have sacrificed our greatest treasure, our sons and daughters, to protect the right of people to speak freely. We have sacrificed our treasure to free people from tyranny. After winning wars we do not enslave, or take the natural resources of those we have defeated. We help those we have vanquished rebuild and try to help them establish more representative forms of govt. and then we try to do trade with them .

I'm sorry you don't see the long term goal of the WOT. We are not only attempting to destroy the terrorists, but we are trying to transform the muslim culture and bring them out of the 7th century into the modern world. We are trying to establish representative govt. where none has existed before. We are trying to create market place economies supported by a judicial system that respects property rights and recognizes individual God give rights. Whether we can succeed, or are meant, to is another question.

If we can't civilize the muslim horde what's the alternative. Europe's birth rates are collapsing. Muslims are reproducing at dramatically higher rates. Russia is a basket case. We either civilize them, or pull back to our shores and abandon your friends and neighbors over there.

It is those Protestants you demean that are fighting the fight. All I see from the RC's and EO is accommodation with the enemy.

1,506 posted on 02/07/2008 8:32:24 AM PST by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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