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To: Quix

***Sounds like an observational/interpretational issue, to me.***

I don’t believe that we have the issues. We have the words of the Church Fathers all the way back to the Apostles in order to put things into perspective, and get their interpretations.

Opportunistic hucksters imaginitively creating new twists on new theologies and hanging out their shingles do.


1,347 posted on 02/05/2008 5:13:20 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
Opportunistic hucksters

I don't think it's as cynical, or as rational, as opportunism and hucksterism, though there are plenty of opportunistic hucksters to exploit what we're seeing here.

I think it's fear of freedom and of uncertainty. Things need to be black and white. "The Scriptures are inspired and they're all we need and if you don't agree it's because God has forsaken you. Sorry about that."

It's very like Islam in the specific sense of the renunciation of reason and the fatalism -- and the inability to argue as adults argue, with the assumption of a shared desire for truth. For them speech is to create an emotional reaction which, they hope, will control one's thoughts,. This is what they say, in any event, and what they do. The reduplicative excerpts from Scripture are not to make a point but to give some kind of good feeling to their comrades and to glorify God.

And what better way to glorify God than to exhibit despite for His enemies, whom, of course, they would just fall down and love if only we'd drink their Koolaid.

Conversation requires a common ground. But common ground with us is a threat to them, something to be avoided. So no real conversation can happen, only harangues and abuse, which, of course, they deny, since they really cannot see, I guess, a difference between a question and an insult. When you question them they react angrily, and when they insult us, they protest that they are only questioning. And thus they protect themselves from having to think something they've never thought before.

1,356 posted on 02/05/2008 5:38:21 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: MarkBsnr

We have the words of the Church Fathers all the way back to the Apostles

= = =

Given the rubber history books I’ve seen the RC edifice reps cite on such scores . . .

I’m more than exceedingly underwhelmed. Seems to me that LOTS of mangling of the historical facts is standard fare for the RC edifice.

Thankfully, God knows full-well what happened when

AND MORE

what He thinks and feels about each issue and each authentically historical event, moment.


1,398 posted on 02/05/2008 10:20:25 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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