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To: sandyeggo

As I posted to kosta, the problem with Gnostic belief in the indwelling Spirit is that since the Holy Spirit directs one, one cannot do wrong. And if one does come into conflict with another, then they, by circular logic, do not have the indwelling Spirit.

So, the iconoclast certainly worships his/her own image in the mirror since everything else falls short or is an icon or graven image.

The problem that we frequently run into is that the folks we are debating are firmly convinced that 33 AD Jewish folks were completely literate in English and had the KJV tucked into their pockets. It was only the Catholic Church that put the kibosh on the free distribution of the KJV in the first century. We are bad.


1,233 posted on 02/04/2008 5:57:08 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr

RC straw dogs are no more attractive than Protty straw dogs.


1,238 posted on 02/04/2008 6:47:34 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: MarkBsnr
As I posted to kosta, the problem with Gnostic belief in the indwelling Spirit is that since the Holy Spirit directs one, one cannot do wrong. And if one does come into conflict with another, then they, by circular logic, do not have the indwelling Spirit

My sentiments exactly!

The problem that we frequently run into is that the folks we are debating are firmly convinced that 33 AD Jewish folks were completely literate in English and had the KJV tucked into their pockets

Exactly.

1,253 posted on 02/04/2008 8:42:20 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: MarkBsnr
As I posted to kosta, the problem with Gnostic belief in the indwelling Spirit is that since the Holy Spirit directs one, one cannot do wrong. And if one does come into conflict with another, then they, by circular logic, do not have the indwelling Spirit.

Well, I have no idea who you would be talking about here. Every Christian that I know who believes in the indwelling of the Holy Spirit in the individual, don't claim that they "cannot do wrong." In fact they (we) know that we can do wrong, so that is why we search the Scriptures for the Holy Spirits guidance.

The 'conflicts' that you gloss over have to do with what we see as evidence of following the Spirit. If it isn't clearly shown in Scripture, then yes, us "protties" will be in conflict with you. But ultimately, we recognize that God will be our final judge as to whom is indwelt and following the Spirit.
1,271 posted on 02/05/2008 3:46:22 AM PST by ScubieNuc (There is only ONE mediator between man and God....Jesus. 1 Timothy 2:5)
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