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To: Dr. Eckleburg

You are correct, my friend - and assume, brother. I’ve seen RCC arguments based on the reasoned position that saints in heaven can see something of what’s going on Earth (Heb 12:1 and Rev 6:9-11), as if that meant we should pray to them or ask them to pray for us! RCC arguments also maintain that the prayers of the saints (Rev 5:8 and 8:3 - 4) are the prayers of those heavenly saints on behalf of the earthly saints 9which they do not recognize by that name).

Assumptions are the enemy of Truth.


114 posted on 01/28/2008 1:47:32 PM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
Thank you, brother, from a sister in Christ. 8~)

If Rome would simply direct its membership to the Bible each man and woman could read for themselves...

"And many among them shall stumble, and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken.

Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.

And I will wait upon the LORD, that hideth his face from the house of Jacob, and I will look for him.

Behold, I and the children whom the LORD hath given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from the LORD of hosts, which dwelleth in mount Zion.

And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?

To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

And they shall pass through it, hardly bestead and hungry: and it shall come to pass, that when they shall be hungry, they shall fret themselves, and curse their king and their God, and look upward.

And they shall look unto the earth; and behold trouble and darkness, dimness of anguish; and they shall be driven to darkness." -- Isaiah 8:15-22

As we have seen.

128 posted on 01/28/2008 2:06:17 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

Assumptions are the enemy of Truth.

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Plenty of truth to that!


174 posted on 01/28/2008 7:17:24 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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