Posted on 01/27/2008 7:56:14 PM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg
Actually, my affections for you and even for kosta are probably higher than might have been.
But my sense of the beliefs held is less lauditory than had been. Interesting paradox.
I think we’ll find that divisions were not and were of God.
There’s a few examples in the NT.
Regardless, Certainly God has been able to work to The Good of The Kingdom
And His highest will is for unity of Spirit & purpose in Christ’s Blood.
Bell-wethers!
There are always some more "leaderly" sheep.
And always a few total wackos. "Crazy Judy", I can't remember her number, was a fine robust lincoln ewe. If all my sheep were going off to port, you could count on Judy to be going off to starboard.
But to get back to the clergy, there were a few who pretty much knew that, say, if I was running them down to that end of the paddock I probably wanted them to go through the gate, and they'd go, and most of the others would follow.
“Interesting paradox.”
Life is like that; actually,paradox is one of life’s pleasures. Those of us “of an age”, like you, Kosta and me appreciate these things! :)
“Interesting paradox.”
If a man tries to fail and succeeds, which did he do?
LOL.
The Chinese and other Orientals also have a great appreciation of paradox.
There are a lot in Scripture.
“If a man tries to fail and succeeds, which did he do?”
Something important enough to “roar” about and celebrate with a bottle of “Pinot Grand Fenwick”, I should think!
Our brother bd, as you can see, Q, is likewise “of an age”! :)
“There are a lot in Scripture.”
Chinese and other Orientals?
A lot of paradoxical things.
I C. I C.
It can be shown that what we breathe in and out is gas. You'd have a tougher job proving it's the "spirit."
None has been able to show me why I should believe their story. They have no proof.
However, the number of people you can look at who are changed is extraordinary in and of itself. That alone should indicate something has happened
Yes, by all means, I agree. The key word is something. That could be a whole buffet of things.
You know, I said "We only know that we can be, and hope that we will be," and 1 Peter 1:3 seconds that
Not assurance, but "living hope."
But, then, again, there are at leats a dozen different "salvational formulas" in the NT. Every Christian group will find one that suits their particular belief.
John was written at the end of the century. It is curious that the other three Gospels make no mention of this. After all, it is a such a powerful statement, that surely everyone whould have remembered it. However, that's not the case.
But, if God is life, then it doesn't matter what you theology is; what matters is how Christ-like you are.
Then the Bible cannot be God's words.
That's no different than what the Jews believe. I would say, more than important; obligatory is more like it, according to the verses you site. God must have assigned works, according to the Reformed theology, even to those who don't believe. And He uses, according to the same, those works of evil for the greater good. So, it seems like works are an integral part of God's plan as you'd call it, and not just "important," but rather essential!.
Comparing scientific laws to whether something is historically true makes no sense. By your standards believing that George Washington ever lived is solely by blind faith
In the real world, we know by examining evidence. Our fancy is not a proof. By my standards there is a greater likelihood that G. Washington lived then if there was not a historical trace of him anywhere.
Better yet, if your doctor "assured" you that he is qualified but had nothing to show for it, I doubt you would subject yourself or your love dones to his care.
Again, I will ask you want would it take for you to believe that a NY subway homeless person is Jesus Christ if he said he was and then told you to leave your wife, kids and job and follow him?
You better believe you'd ask for some proof!
Do you say that you cannot "detect" God simply from your human experience?
I can honestly answer that if God had not been mentioned from my earliest days, I would have never assumed there was God. Just as, when I was a child, I never wondered where things came from. I was too busy being in awe of them. They were there and they were fascinating. And some were good and others were not so good. Some dogs bite and some don't.
It took me a long time to realize that "nature" does not know mercy and that mercy is not of this world. From there follow a number other realizations that lead me to believe that there is something "beyond" this world.
I think most Christians would say that they CAN detect God this way.
It's deductive and it doesn't sow that it's necessarily God, but something "not of this world."
Demons detect God too, but they do not have faith. The eyes and ears are what confirm for believers that the words of scripture are true
But those who use different scriptures will tell you the same thing. What proof do you have that yours are true? The spiritual "eyes" and "ears?" Don't be ridiculous. Eyes and ears prove nothing.
They allow a believer to see what has been absolutely true all along
Unsubstantiated claim lacking any proof.
I think ALL of us have proved we have faith by the evidence of our postings here
Just because we all say we have faith doesn't prove it. Words prove nothing. They are just words.
Well some of them may be.. Come on give a little..
You can't show that any of that is true. You can continue your self-appointed role as "God's mouhtpiece," but I will continue to ask you for proof. So far you have not provded any.
If the words of God are incorurptible, then the Bible cannot show corruption and it does. If one word is corrupted then the whole bible is.
Who is more God-like: the one who can recite the bible and claims to be God's elect mouthpeiece, or someone who reflects Christ in love and humility but cannot quote a single verse?
Boy did YOU miss the point.. What is spirit or even Spirit?..
I mean what is it?.. Is it a substance, is it "thingly" ?..
Is "it" a personality, a him or her, or even an "it" ?...
Do you have a spirit?.. If so what is it?..
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