Conclusion from Peru and Mexico

email from Randall Easter | 25 January 2008 | Randall Easter

[MarkBsnr]

You said what you said. And no amount of vehemence will possibly blur your words. They are there and they are clear. You said what you said.

You do not clarify here. You are stating something that is easily refuted by going back to the original post. Reformed theology is a man made sham and your posts support that view.

Reformed theology is evil and of the devil. It divides men and blurs the words of Jesus. Think of all the posts that the Reformed include the words of other than Jesus.

Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life. Not Calvin. And not any of the Reformers.

Reformed theology is not Christianity. We Christians understand that non Christians who do not believe in the Christian God will not attain everlasting life.

Repent and believe. Faith is not Gnostic knowledge. It is belief. Repent and believe and foresake the idiotic idea of a Gnostic elected elite that gets a limousine ride to Heaven.

[MarkBsnr]

***The reformers had no problem with doing it.. why not the RC church with all its resources..***

Gutenberg had just arrived.

The overriding impetus was the power struggle that the German nobles felt that they could suddenly win. It had nothing to do with theology.

[MarkBsnr]

***Mark, the word Gnostic touches Portestant’s nerves. In proving that they “know” they can only quote St. Paul. Wnich is why they like him so much and which is why the Gnostics liked Paul so much. And, let’s not forget, his was Marcion’s only Apostle whose works were good enough to keep in their entirety.
You see, without the knowledge, their whole belief falls apart. Yet when challeneged to porve what they know they can’t. That’s the point when they say “you don’t have eyes and ears...” Very convincing...LOL.***

When one rejects God’s church, one has to have a really big lie to replace it.

Falling apart? You bet. It gets really irritating when they get accused of creating God in their own image.

[MarkBsnr]

Thank you for adding evidence to my posts, sir.

God love us all and has freely given His Grace to all. I agree very much and thank you for opening this thread.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

You said what you said. And no amount of vehemence will possibly blur your words. They are there and they are clear. You said what you said.

Mark, sometimes these discussions are really tedious.

Just what is it I was supposed to have said that you don't understand or you have misinterpreted.

As noted, you tend to yell "gotcha! when no one is around to hear you.

Reformed theology is evil and of the devil

Just lol.

[MarkBsnr]

***While I strongly disagree with their views and believe it is heretical in nature, there is a consistent pattern of how they arrived at it. However, their view is built upon Cassian’s point of view that was considered heresy by the Roman Catholics at one time.***

What is the basis of your judgement on what is heretical and what is not?

***It is an idolatry nonsensical doctrine that Catholics can’t even keep straight; raising Mary and the Church far higher than our Lord Jesus.***

No it is not. You have no proof nor do you have sufficient evidence.

***Catholics can’t even define what it means to venerate something**

We can and we do.

*** It doesn’t surprise me to see the Roman Catholics slowing moving back towards the erroneous teachings of the Orthodox because they can’t figure out simple concepts like “a chosen nation”.***

Huh? Can we pull together a coherant post please?

[Quix]

Amen Amen!

Here’s some more from the Gaithers . . .

CHILD YOU’RE FORGIVEN —GAITHER VOCAL BAND

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA1BMCMWxE8

CHURCH TRIUMPHANT —GAITHERS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y0MstLEdT4

COMEDY—GAITHERS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQkeNv5lBLI

EAGLE SONG —GAITHER SOUND ASIAN TEENS? LIP SINKING TO SOUND

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bEcWzSiyd8

GIVE IT AWAY —GAITHER VOCAL BAND (PROMO VID)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYPlV3NiM9U

HEAVEN’S JOY AWAITS —GAITHER

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv7KNF6lilU

HE SET ME FREE by Russ Taff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ0QC9LCkMU&feature=related

HE TOUCHED ME

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEqUnEo10kw&feature=related

HE’S A PERSONAL SAVIOR —GAITHER

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfGQJ6otObc

HIDE THOU ME GAITHER VOCAL BAND (FULL)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev5tqgvYlEA&feature=related

HIS LOVE IS LIKE A RIVER —GAITHER

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hous229DsXo

HOLY, HOLY, HOLY by DAVID PHELPS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSB82oD9qYg

[MarkBsnr]

***Your tag line says it all. Have a day.***

My tag line is a quote from St. Augustine (who in his heretical days was a darling of the Reformed). I intend to have a day, and perhaps, God willing, another day after that.

[Quix]

Reformed theology is not Christianity.

= = =

Oh, Really?

I’m convinced God has a different perspective.

But . . . again . . . as I noted in post 41 of whatever thread . . . it’s the practice that IS and that communicates Christianity . . .

—not the doctrinal pedigree;
—not the organizational history—rubber or otherwise;
—not the theological pontifical intellectual lineage;
—not a long list of things . . .

Christ and Him crucified and what His priorities are for that individual, family, group at that point in time . . . that is Christianity regardless of a long, long list of other chaff.

[Quix]

I realize your FREEPMAIL was likely tag team . . . something or other given your buddy was bowing out for whatever reasons . . .

However, your . . . presentations on this thread against Protty’s . . . are as . . . whatever as anything Dr E or I have ever written regarding the RC edifice.

I shall yet again thicken my hide and laugh uproariously when next the wailing and whining starts over some of our posts.

Prissy fierceness, theoretically, to me, is not a microgram’s worth more saintly than the rough and tumble kind.

[irishtenor]

Pot, Kettle?

Mark, you are so far off the mark it isn’t funny. Reformed theology brings people BACK to God, not the church. We worship a risen savior, Christ Jesus. That is ALL we worship. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE REFORMED ON THIS THREAD WILL SAY THE SAME THING.

***Think of all the posts that the Reformed include the words of other than Jesus.***

This one really kills me. We post scripture after scripture and you guys post the old church fathers. You constantly ignore scripture to see what Augustine or whosit or whatever have to say.

***Reformed theology is not Christianity.***

What would you say Christianity is OTHER than belief in Jesus Christ as your savior? I believe in Jesus. I am a Christian. Anyone who says otherwise is of the devil, trying to confuse people.

Just because you have some weird, confused idea of what we believe doesn’t make you right. I dare you to look at any post of Gamecock, xzins, Dr.E, etc. etc and show me one post where they do not believe in Jesus as their savior.

Deny it all you want, we are believers, we love God, we love Jesus, and we have the Holy Spirit dwelling inside us.

Jealosy will get you no where. Repent of your childish ways, turn to Christ and be saved.

[MarkBsnr]

***Just what is it I was supposed to have said that you don’t understand or you have misinterpreted.***

This is not the first time that you have claimed ignorance of the content of your posts. Is it wilfull ignorance, or is a ploy to try to deny posting content?

I very clearly quoted you when you posted two ludicrously opposite thoughts in adjoining paragraphs. If you do not remember, perhaps a reminder of the posting might be in order.

***As noted, you tend to yell “gotcha! when no one is around to hear you.***

I speak the truth and I do not lie. Can you say the same?

***Reformed theology is evil and of the devil

Just lol.***

Try that lol on the Judge of all. Some of us take our theology seriously; we also take the source of our theology seriously. We pick Jesus over Calvin.

[irishtenor]

You pick the church over everything.

[MarkBsnr]

***I’m convinced God has a different perspective.***

So does every Tom, Dick and Charles. It doesn’t make it right, though.

[MarkBsnr]

***Mark, you are so far off the mark it isn’t funny. Reformed theology brings people BACK to God, not the church. We worship a risen savior, Christ Jesus. That is ALL we worship. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE REFORMED ON THIS THREAD WILL SAY THE SAME THING.***

Very fine attempt. You worship an elite saviour that has elected a few to Heaven and condemns the bulk of His creation to hell.

***We post scripture after scripture and you guys post the old church fathers. You constantly ignore scripture to see what Augustine or whosit or whatever have to say.***

You post misinterpretation after misinterpretation of St. Paul in opposition to the words of Jesus. You do not consider the message of the Messiah to be worth anything other than what will support the words of Calvin.

***I dare you to look at any post of Gamecock, xzins, Dr.E, etc. etc and show me one post where they do not believe in Jesus as their savior.***

I don’t believe that their understanding of Jesus amounts to anything more accurate than that of the LDS.

***Deny it all you want, we are believers, we love God, we love Jesus, and we have the Holy Spirit dwelling inside us.***

I don’t believe that the love of God is the ultimate impetus. I think that the belief is that of an elitist Gnostic self-satisfied cult that smirks in its elitism and its own unworthy elevation over everyone else.

[hosepipe]

[ When one rejects God’s church, one has to have a really big lie to replace it. ]

Not according to the book of Revelation..
Which is the "Vision" of Jesus..(Rev ch 1:1)

[MarkBsnr]

***You pick the church over everything.***

If Jesus has given us the Church, then why would one reject it?