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A painting by Hieronymous Bosch, c.1510, portraying Paradise on the left and Hell on the right.

2 posted on 01/09/2008 8:04:22 AM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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Logic and facts aside, my informal survey of lapsed christians: Reasons include- abuse by church members covered up or the victim was blamed. Second- Hell and eternal torment are so difficult to understand in the context of a loving God that people give up, assuming they are going to be among the majority of humanity doomed to be playthings for a spoiled and sadistic angel.

So I do not agree with the changes, I just understand the motivation.


8 posted on 01/09/2008 9:06:19 AM PST by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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The author didn’t search his NASB bible very well. After reading this article the first place I looked in my NASB was Matt 5:22 - and there it was “fiery hell”. Hard to take anything else he says seriously.


19 posted on 01/09/2008 2:56:21 PM PST by joebuck
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