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I wrote, “It’s difficult to dialog with restorationist types (e.g., Jehovah’s Witnesses, WWCOG, Campbellites, modern “messianic Jews”) because they have no historical frame of reference.”

I need to apologize and clarify my comment. I didn’t mean to lump orthodox yet aberrant groups like (trinitarian) messianic Jews with heretical groups like the JWs and WWCOG splinter groups like the United Church of God which deny the orthodox formulation on the Trinity. Not all restorationists are heretics. Those which accept the early church councils’ pronouncements on the nature of the Godhead are far removed from modern cults which deny the councils.

I apologize for seeming to lump them all together.

I need to apologize and clarify my comment. I didn’t mean to lump orthodox yet aberrant groups like (trinitarian) messianic Jews with heretical groups like the JWs and WWCOG splinter groups like the United Church of God which deny the orthodox formulation on the Trinity. Not all restorationists are heretics. Those which accept the early church councils’ pronouncements on the nature of the Godhead are far removed from modern cults which deny the councils.

If following the bible and believing what Christ believed is heretical than I'll gladly take the title. I think it's ironic that traditional Christianity has made a belief in orthodox confession a prerequisite for being a Christian.

Here is one biblical definition of a Christian, from the mouth of Jesus:

Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Thank God Christ said we can't be Christians unless we confess belief in a man made creed formalized in 381 AD. We would all be wise to not give heed to commandments of men:

Tit 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

I need to apologize and clarify my comment. I didn’t mean to lump orthodox yet aberrant groups like (trinitarian) messianic Jews with heretical groups like the JWs and WWCOG splinter groups like the United Church of God which deny the orthodox formulation on the Trinity. Not all restorationists are heretics.

I for one accept your apology.
This is the first time you have stepped back from your normally
rude, unChristian, supercilious, ranting condemning all who disagree
with your Preterit views.
I pray you receive more of Yah'shua's lovingkindness toward brothers in the Christ.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua