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To: Matchett-PI; Pyro7480
Please pray for these people, that they will “see the light” and get out before it’s too late. Also, pray for the ones who have already left!

Wow...that sounds horrible.

Thanks for posting that sister.

It's certainly clear that "The House of Yahweh &Yisrayl Hawkins" were/are far from Christian.

It's a good thing to pray for them and I will pray that these poor people do leave this organization.

21 posted on 01/08/2008 10:54:57 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
"I will pray that these poor people do leave this organization."

They believe that they will lose their salvation if they leave.

How about you? Do you believe your church is the "one true church" and that you will lose your salvation if you leave the UCG organization (as long as they continue to embrace their current teachings)?

25 posted on 01/08/2008 11:03:23 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Algore - there's not a more priggish, sanctimonious moral scold of a church lady anywhere.)
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To: DouglasKC

By the way ... I meant to mention this, too. Are you aware that your Armstrong-spin-off group (UCG) is moving back to their roots in Texas? Yes, here is the latest letter to the Elders of that dwindling membership in case you haven’t seen it yet:

January 4, 2008
Dear Fellow Elders,

I am pleased to announce that earlier today the United Church of God, an International Association became the owner of 81 acres of land located just north of Denton, Texas. This is the first step in the fulfillment of the GCE resolution passed eight months ago to relocate from Ohio to Texas.

The Council of Elders approved going ahead with the purchase in November. The location and price of the land was exceptional, and with other offers on the seller’s table it was reasonable to conclude that not only would the property probably not be available at a later date, but that the price would go up.

Here are some of the key details on this purchase:

· The property is 81.5 acres, virtually all of it suitable for potential development.

· It cost $1,599,784, or $19,610 per acre. This is even less than we expected. In the presentations made to the Council and General Conference of Elders last February and March, we noted that the average cost of properties that we looked at in our original search in the Dallas/Fort Worth metroplex was around $40,000 per acre.

· It is located on the south side of FM 3163 (Milam Road), just east of Milam Ridge Road, Denton, Texas, one-half mile east of Interstate 35 (visible from the freeway), approximately 3 miles north of loop 288 and 7.5 miles from downtown Denton.

· The property is outside of the Denton city limits (which simplifies the development process somewhat), with vacant land to the north, east and south, and a small subdivision adjoining to the west. The land is on a hill, with the terrain gently sloping to the south toward a creek that crosses the southern edge of the property.

Over one year has transpired since the relocation idea was originally presented to the Council, and many people have worked hard in the interim to make this possible. Much work lies ahead. Purchasing land is only the first in a long series of steps that will need to be taken before a move can actually occur. It will take several months to design the buildings, to finalize the engineering, to obtain construction approvals, to contract with a developer, etc. But now we can start moving forward to work on putting these pieces in place.

A letter will soon be sent to all members, giving more information to everyone about the relocation. Also, as I wrote to you earlier in a separate message, we will be holding regional meetings for all elders in the United States to address this and other related manpower issues. We do hope all of you will be able to attend.

I could add much to this letter but will save some things for a later time. It is appropriate to close, however, by reminding us of scriptures that were used in the original presentation almost a year ago.

Isaiah 29:14 is a dramatic declaration of God’s intent and power, which we believe will be mightily exhibited in the end times: “Therefore, behold, I will again do a marvelous work among this people, a marvelous work and a wonder.”

If anything has been a recent witness to God’s power to open doors, it was the media blitz over the “Christians Who Don’t Keep Christmas” article and the spin-off coverage over the last three weeks. We did nothing of our own power to plan for or generate that. It was undoubtedly worth hundreds of thousands, even millions, of dollars in exposure­there is no way we can calculate what it would have cost us to have bought our way into such prominent media outlets around the world! We truly have only a little strength. But this served as a witness to the world of God’s truth­and a powerful witness to the Church of the authority of the One who “opens and no one shuts, and shuts and no one opens,” to “set before you an open door” (Revelation 3:7-8)!

Is there any among us who doubts that God has more marvelous works to be done among this people at the end of the age? As great as it was, the media attention over Christmas was really just a small inkling of what could potentially thrust the gospel into the limelight. Knowing that, and expecting God to open more doors in the future, we must muster our little strength and maintain 100-percent commitment to the work He has given us to do in preaching the gospel to the world, preparing the next generation in the Church, training new men for the pastoral ministry, and every other challenge that lies before us.

As we were reminded by the theme of the last General Conference of Elders meeting, “unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain who build it” (Psalm 127:1). Above all things, please join with me in diligently, fervently and humbly seeking His blessing and guidance in all things pertaining to His house, the Church of God!

Sincerely, Clyde Kilough

COMMENT (Note “Herbie” reference is to Herbert W. Armstrong):

” The whole thing sounds like a Herbie letter. Can’t wait for the plea for money. I think Kilough had to squeeze Gawd in there somewhere, and over exaggerated(or, I should say, over regurgitated). The move to Gawd’s Country is compared to Isa. 29:14. Then he says that there was a “power” that generated millions of dollars in exposure(their god of course is in the money business). Of course, let’s stay “humble” and inform the dumb sheep that “we” have a LITTLE strength, and use Herbie’s old church era doctrine that “we” are the Sillydelphians by using that old ploy of “open and shut doors”(after all, “we” have to scratch those itching ears!). I just love the next part: “Is there any among us who doubts that God has blah, blah, blah”? Does he think anyone in his cult is going to come forth and tell him that they doubt that God is in the UCG BUSINESS of forcing money out of people? This is nothing but propaganda to make the sheeple think that since the Christmas crap was just an “inkling” of what could “potentially” throw the “gospel” into the limelight, “just think what we could do if we had more money!”. He doesn’t have to say it(although he will eventually), just read between the lines, “We must muster our little strength and maintain 100-percent committment to the WORK”. How much clearer can it be than to come right out and say, “Send in those tithes and offerings, brethren.”? Now let’s close with another scripture. “Unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain who build it”. Did he forget about the MOTHER cult in which he was hatched, and his mentor??? The only difference from this manipulative letter and Herbie’s is that Clyde didn’t close with “In Jesus’ Name”. Hmmm. Well, at least he’s “sincere”. Gag!” ~ Steve (ex-WCG cult member)


33 posted on 01/08/2008 12:43:53 PM PST by Matchett-PI (Algore - there's not a more priggish, sanctimonious moral scold of a church lady anywhere.)
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