Posted on 01/04/2008 2:10:49 PM PST by Terriergal
In the Apprising Ministries article Joel Osteen: Apprising His Word Faith Teachings I have clearly showed those who are looking for the truth that Osteen teaches the exact same positive confession Word Faith theology and prosperity gospel as did his late father John, Kenneth “Dad” Hagin (1917-2003), and which is also currently being preached by Hagin’s dutiful disciple Kenneth Copeland and Oneness Pentecostal T.D. Jakes for that matter.
The unique twist that Joel Osteen has added to the mix is the syrupy sweet self-help shtick of Robert Schuller cleverly mixed together for his most popular brand of “Cotton-Candy Christianity.” I am not judging his motivations, or his heart, so I can only say that Osteen’s found the way to preach that his god wants you to have: “Heaven while you're on earth, and then when you die, you get...ah—well, even more Heaven.”
Sadly another sign of the growing spiritual blindness and apostasy in the American Christian Church right now that someone like Joel Osteen is steadily gaining much acceptance even among mainstream evangelicalism. And this comes despite a theology completely consistent with other mainstays on the Trinity Broadcasting Network such as Benny Hinn, Rod Parsley and “pastor” Paula White.
But the news gets even worse for Joel Osteen because running on a parallel track the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the Mormon Church) is also beginning to make inroads toward being considered a legitimate form of Christianity. As case in point we offer Mormons and Evangelicals Ready to Worship Together? But what does this even have to do with Joel Osteen? Well, I’m so glad you asked.
Osteen heads up arguably the largest evangelical church in the country. So here he was on Fox News Sunday a couple of weeks ago saying that in his mind Mormons are genuine Christians as I originally pointed out in Joel Osteen: Mitt Romney And Mormons Are Christians. But the saddest news of all may be that now Joel Osteen has pronounced blessing on the non-Christian cult of the Mormon Church as being Christian; and there is no outrage, and no evangelical leaders publicly calling Osteen to account.
No instead, it’s just business as usual in the apostatizing American Christian Church saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace (Jeremiah 6:14, KJV).
See also:
MORMON CHURCH IS NOW CHRISTIAN
JOEL OSTEEN HELPING MORMONS BECOME A BETTER YOU
Posted by Ken Silva, pastor-teacher at January 3, 2008 07:07 PM
Copyright © 2007 by Ken Silva. All rights reserved.
It isn’t personal revelation, it is from the Bible. If the Bible pisses you off fred, that is YOUR problem.
your god told me to talk like you
2 Timothy 4
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2Ti 4:1 In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge:
2Ti 4:2 Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage–with great patience and careful instruction.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
2Ti 4:4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
1 Peter 5:12 With the help of Silas, whom I regard as a faithful brother, I have written to you briefly, encouraging you and testifying that this is the true grace of God. Stand fast in it.
I have one God.
Which of your gods told you to deceive others?
correct, rebuke and encourage–with great patience and careful instruction.
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I missed the part about piss off words.
As I said, fred. If the Bible pisses you off, Christ is not in you.
It is as plain as the written word.
As I said, fred. If the Bible pisses you off, Christ is not in you.
It is as plain as the written word.
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it is not the words in the Bible, it is the words you use to describe us and ours.
John 3
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Jhn 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
Jhn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
Jhn 3:20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
Jhn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”
prity words
you also are walking around the fact that you like to piss people off while you do your god’s work.
Jhn 7:17 If anyone chooses to do God’s will, he will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own.
Jhn 7:18 He who speaks on his own does so to gain honor for himself, but he who works for the honor of the one who sent him is a man of truth; there is nothing false about him.
Jhn 7:19 Has not Moses given you the law? Yet not one of you keeps the law. Why are you trying to kill me?”
Gal 4:16 Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth?
Gal 4:17 Those people are zealous to win you over, but for no good. What they want is to alienate you from us, so that you may be zealous for them.
Gal 4:18 It is fine to be zealous, provided the purpose is good, and to be so always and not just when I am with you.
I am still missing the part where your god said you are to piss us off so we will not listen.
fred, listen very carefully.....if you are pissed off, that is your problem.
You can choose how to react to words. In fact it is your responsibility to choose how to react. If you react in anger (pissed off) then you must examine yourself.
You can tell me anything you want about me, or about evangelicals, or even as another LDS poster did on another thread today, accuse every Protestant of supporting the KKK. It doesn’t evoke anger in me, it evokes pity.
I have pity for you fred, for all the oaths you must take, and ordinances your must receive, and works of tithing, and abstaining, and crossing every ‘t’ and dotting every ‘i.’
There is freedom and eternal life right now, in Christ. Just accept it. It is a great gift.
You can choose how to react to words. In fact it is your responsibility to choose how to react. If you react in anger (pissed off) then you must examine yourself.
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YOU NOW KNOW THAT MANY OF YOUR WORDS PISS US OFF. YOU MAY CHOSE TO CONTINUE TO USE THEM, OR YOU MAY CHOOSE TO BE CHRISTIAN TOWARD US.
1Jo 3:18 Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth.
1Jo 3:19 This then is how we know that we belong to the truth, and how we set our hearts at rest in his presence
Cotton-Candy Christianity!! AMEN!!!!! ALL FLUFF!!
1Jo 3:19 This then is how we know that we belong to the truth, and how we set our hearts at rest in his presence
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You forgot to include the verse, before the ones you posted, that changes what you wanted this to say to something closer to what I said. Another half truth.
Not really fred.
***You can choose how to react to words. In fact it is your responsibility to choose how to react. If you react in anger (pissed off) then you must examine yourself.***
Calmly, like these gentlemen.
Act 7:57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,
Act 7:58 And cast [him] out of the city, and stoned [him]:
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