Posted on 01/01/2008 6:40:32 PM PST by TheDon
Mormons. Just mentioning the name can evoke images as wide-ranging as "polygamists living in the deserts of Utah" and "a traditional all-American family with strong religious values."
Both can be found in the history of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as it has evolved into one of America's fastest-growing religions, with more than 13 million members worldwide, including approximately 50,000 in Orange County.
In 2005, Orange County got its first temple: the Newport Beach California Temple. For Mormons, temples are very important and differ from the sites used for regular Sunday worship meetings. They are considered houses of God where ceremonies such as baptism and eternal marriages are performed. The primary function of temple rituals is to seal families together, allowing them to dwell together for eternity.
According to Mormon beliefs, the roots of their religion go back to 1827, in Palmyra, N.Y., where Joseph Smith dug up a set of golden tablets, which he translated and published as the Book of Mormon. This book is considered sacred and, along with the Old and New Testaments, guided Smith and his followers.
On the 8.8-acre Newport Beach campus, where along with the temple there is a meeting house, we met with Dr. Weatherford Clayton, 55, stake (diocese) president. An obstetrician and father of five children, he has been a Mormon "basically all my life."
Here are his edited responses to several questions.
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Ever since this day many heretical groups have attempted to hijack the name “Christian” for themselves. So far, for 2000 years they have failed.
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Some of the threads in FR have the different denominations fighting over which of their other denominations are Christian, and which are not. Good chance that everyone who calls us nonchristian have been called nonchristian by someone Else.
Those oaths were definitely in the Temple ceremony. I took those oaths in 1976.
If the Tanners (regardless of motive) posted the truth, then why are you attacking their credibility. It’s the TRUTH!
I have been called evil and dishonest on this web site because I have a honest difference of opinion regarding the Scriptures.
If the Tanners (regardless of motive) posted the truth, then why are you attacking their credibility. It’s the TRUTH!
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GENESIS
CHAPTER 3
1 Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did feat.
7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
Now here is where I differer on motive. Satan told the truth but his motive was to deceive.
Then why don’t you post the truth about the Temple Ceremony, instead of attacking others. It would be the rational thing to do.
You don’t know what is in the Tanner’s hearts, remember they are Christian, and Christ is their judge. The only way you can refute what they say in to impugn them, and imply a wronful motive. You haven’t even proven that....it is only your allegation.
I’ve met the Tanners, they are honorable and good God-fearing people. They are truth tellers. If that hurts Mormonism, that is Mormonism’s problem. If Mormonism cannot stand the light that is shined upon it, then we must wonder therefore if it could truly be of God. God is not the maker of lies. Satan is.
Who are you CC in trying to tempt us into talk about what goes on in the temple?
I don’t care what you read or did stop trying to tempt the LDS!
You are one coy operator now!
Don’t let her beguile you!
he is LDS
God is Truth
Psalm 33:4
For the word of the Lord is right; and all his works are done in truth.
John 8:31b-32
If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. John 17:17 Sanctify them through truth: thy word is truth.
God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. If we claim to have fellowship with him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and the do not live by the truth.” God is light. God is truth. What is real is not in secret. What is real is in the light—open and available.
In Greek culture, knowing God is quite special experience. It is not available to ordinary common people. It is not for open and available means. It is through secret and mysterious gathering. This secret gathering has strict membership requirements. What do people do in secret chambers? People do shameful acts in this secret places. This is what it means to dwell in darkness. Some people lived in these secret zones. Many live a double life—sometimes they live in the light, sometimes in the darkness.
Even Jesus did NOT tell everything to everyone!
Scripture? Link?
1 John 1:6 If we claim to have fellowship with him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live by the truth. 7But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.
Oh please tell that to someone who will not be fooled by your craftiness!
You really are on the fast track now how sad!
How soon you forget!
Are you referring to the Temple oaths? Is that a threat? Am I to have my throat slit, my bowela spilled, or my tongue torn loose? When did YOU go to the Temple, resty?
Quoting scripture is now seen as craftiness, by the secretive Mormon. How nice.
I'm responding to Temple ceremonies postings so other non-or marginal Mormons know what that "unique" religion is all about.
No other Christian faith has "secret ceremonies" to which non-adherents are kept in the dark (at least none that I'm aware of that are not one of the cults.)
I’m sorry for the misunderstanding. My post was to domandred, but since his post (that I responded to) was to you, I pinged you. I knew you weren’t attacking the Tanners.
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