Wait - what do you mean by "you guys"? Whenever Catholics refer to the early Church, the shrill chorus goes up, "the patristic Church was NOT the Catholic Church! Blah blah blah". Are you now, finally admitting that "us guys" who defined the Trinity and the hypostatic union were, indeed, the Catholic Church? I will wait for your answer with baited breath...
Don't you think that's a little odd since John was aware of and wrote about the Trinity in the 1st Century???
Belief in the Trinity did not suddenly appear at Nicea. It was the plethora of heresy that required a formal definition (declaration) by the Church, but what is defined was believed in faith and practice long before Nicea.
How many time did Jesus say 'the Father and I are One"???
That only speaks of two persons. Where did Jesus say, "the Father and I and the Paraclete are three persons sharing the same divine substance?"
Really??? Where is this hypostatic union defined??? Where is it said that the two natures are inseparable???
So you don't believe that Jesus had both a human and divine nature?
Christians have one body, two natures...The old nature (contained in the flesh) and the new nature (contained in the soul)...When the flesh dies, we'll have one nature...
Natures aren't categorized as "flesh" and "spiritual". They are "human", "angelic", or "divine" because of their substance, not their tangible or intangible quality. Christians have one body, one nature - human. Only Christ had two natures, fused and inseperable - human and divine. If you believe that when "the Word became flesh" Christ either sacrificed an ounce of His divinity or refused an ounce of humanity, your beliefs are heresy.
Sure...Jesus had to become human, JUST AS WE ARE...He had to be born, just as we have...He had to experience human life and human temptation, just as we do...He had to be an example...
No He didn't.
God didn't have to become flesh and die on the cross, either. But he chose to, yes, in order to be an example to us. And that includes the importance of the motherhood of Mary. If you believe that God HAD to do this or HAD to do that, you're stating that God doesn't have infinite power.
Sounds nice, but you won't find that in any scripture...
Translation: "I can't respond to that, therefore, I will pull out the 'it's not in Scripture' card to soothe my distress."
How could you define the Trinity when you couldn't find it for 300 years...Could be your church wasn't there for the first 300 years, eh???
The Trinity was defined by the Jesus and the Apostle right from the start...
Natures aren't categorized as "flesh" and "spiritual". They are "human", "angelic", or "divine" because of their substance, not their tangible or intangible quality. Christians have one body, one nature - human.
Well I don't know about that...God is certainly divine...And He certainly is Spirit...So apparently having a divine Spirit is a 'nature'...
You are mistaken about Christians...Christians have the old nature, the corrupt flesh...They also have the new nature, the divine Holy Spirit...
Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
The 'inward man' is the Holy Spirit in born again believers...
Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Two natures; one, the corrupt flesh which serves corruption, and the inward man, the Holy Spirit who serves God...