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To: NYer
The Catholic Church, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, wrote the Bible. The Catholic Church assembled the Canon (List) of books in the Bible, and the Catholic Church has safeguarded the Bible for 2,000 years.

1. GOD wrote the Bible via the Holy Spirit, and none of the Apostles were Catholics as any sane person would define the term.

2. Athanasius compiled the canonical list of books included in the New Testament - his time predates the split between Orthodox and Catholic, so claiming him as Catholic is not entirely correct. This is dissembling.

3. The Vulgate was not as accurate as later versions, and, further, translation from Latin into languages that the people spoke such as German, English, etc. was fought by the Catholic church for many years.

42 posted on 12/18/2007 4:19:11 PM PST by ikka
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To: ikka
2. Athanasius compiled the canonical list of books included in the New Testament - his time predates the split between Orthodox and Catholic, so claiming him as Catholic is not entirely correct. This is dissembling.

"Thus it is that sinners, and all those who are aliens from the Catholic Church, heretics, and schismatics, since they are excluded from glorifying (God) with the saints, cannot properly even continue observers of the feast."
Athanasius - Festal Letters VII, 335 A.D.

"For the faith which the Council confessed in writings is the faith of the Catholic Church."
Athanasius - Letter on the Council of Nicaea, 27, 350 A.D.

"Well then, what is there in common between the heresy of Arius and the opinion of Dionysius: or why is Dionysius to be called like Arius, when they differ widely? For the one is a teacher of the Catholic Church, while the other has been the inventor of a new heresy."
Athanasius - Letters on the Opinion of Dionysius, 6, 350 A.D.

But since, not having understood the faith of the Catholic Church, they have fallen into impiety, and consequently, maimed in their intelligence, think that even straight things are crooked and call light darkness, while they think that darkness is light, it is necessary to quote also from the other letters of Dionysius, and state why they were written, to the greater condemnation of the heretic, For it was from them that we ourselves have learned to think and write as we are doing about the man."
Athanasius - Letter on the Opinion of Dionysius, 6, 350 A.D.

"But let the impiety of Sabellius and of Paul of Samosata also be anathematised by all, and the madness of Valentinian and Basilides, and the folly of the Munichaens. For if this be done, all evil suspicion will be removed on all hands, and the faith of the Catholic Church alone be exhibited in purity."
Athanasius - Tomas ad Antiochenos, 3

"How then can they be Christians, who for Christians are Ario-maniac? Or how are they of the Catholic Church, who have shaken off the Apostolical faith, and become authors of fresh evils?"
Athanasius - Discourse Against the Arians, I-4, 356 A.D.

Ouch:
"Let us note that the very tradition, teaching, and faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning, which the Lord gave, was preached by the Apostles, and was preserved by the Fathers. On this was the Church founded; and if anyone departs from this, he neither is nor any longer ought to be called a Christian."
Athansius - Letter to Serapion of Thmuis, 359 A.D.

Who's dissembling again?

126 posted on 12/19/2007 10:05:19 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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