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To: Campion

You can have your own beliefs but not your own history.

The Catholic Church murdered people who disagreed with its teachings. This is because the Church had become corrupted and wanted to control the figurative keys to heaven. The Roman Church had interpreted their scripture to fit their narative, primarily to justify Peter as the foundation of the Church in the face of other claims.

It was this hubris that led to the Protestant reformation.


15 posted on 12/18/2007 3:02:12 PM PST by Soliton (Freddie T is the one for me! (c))
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To: Soliton
The Catholic Church murdered people who disagreed with its teachings.

Protestants murdered Catholics who disagreed with its teachings. Your point?

18 posted on 12/18/2007 3:04:09 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: Soliton
You can have your own beliefs

Gosh, thanks, I guess.

but not your own history.

Okay. Likewise, I'm sure.

The Catholic Church murdered people who disagreed with its teachings.

And Protestants did the same. Take my namesake, St. Edmund Campion, for example, who was hung, drawn, and quartered by Protestants for saying Mass and hearing confessions.

Not to mention that Protestants killed other Protestants who disagreed with their teachings. There was a period of time in England when it was possible to be executed for refusing to deny the Pope's supremacy ... and to be accompanied to your execution by a fellow prisoner, condemned for rejecting transubstantiation!

24 posted on 12/18/2007 3:11:36 PM PST by Campion
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To: Soliton
It was this hubris that led to the Protestantreformation.

It certainly was hubris that led to the Protestant reformation, but not on the part of the Catholic Church.

62 posted on 12/18/2007 8:37:43 PM PST by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Soliton
It was this hubris that led to the Protestant reformation.
The Hubris of the soi-disant 'reformers' led to their burning many at the stake, torturing many more and leading countless souls into heresy, apostacy and hell.
65 posted on 12/18/2007 8:43:10 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Soliton
It was this hubris that led to the Protestant reformation.

You can say that again! Luther thought he knew better than 1500 years of unified understanding and recast the canon based on his own self-aggrandized opinion.

86 posted on 12/19/2007 7:07:49 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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