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To: Kolokotronis

While I’m sure there have been faithful bishops in Anglicanism over the centuries, the honest question is: can we really be shocked at this, since their forefather were the all the bishops who cowtowed to Henry VIII? The only bishop who stood up to that scoundrel was St. John Fisher.


6 posted on 12/14/2007 3:52:44 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: Pyro7480; Huber; bobjam; sionnsar

“While I’m sure there have been faithful bishops in Anglicanism over the centuries, the honest question is: can we really be shocked at this, since their forefather were the all the bishops who cowtowed to Henry VIII? The only bishop who stood up to that scoundrel was St. John Fisher.”

An Orthodox hierarch recently told me that Anglicanism has carried with it the seeds of its own destruction from the day Henry VIII established it...but I have to say, this time with all due and real respect to the Orthodox hierarch, that any group which could produce a +JC Ryle had and likely has elements of holiness worthy of both note and profound respect by both Latins and the Orthodox.


7 posted on 12/14/2007 4:10:50 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Pyro7480
“all the bishops who cowtowed to Henry VIII? The only bishop who stood up to that scoundrel was St. John Fisher.”

what about William White, Chaplain of the Continental Congress and 1st Presiding Bishop, and all those early Bishops. One of the first things they did was to scratch out the King’s name from all the prayer books and substitute the American leaders. Samuel Seabury, the first American Bishop consecrated at a midnight mass by the bishops in Scotland, much to the dismay of the Church of England and their Primate - George VIII

10 posted on 12/14/2007 4:23:29 PM PST by elpadre
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To: Pyro7480
the honest question is: can we really be shocked at this, since their forefather were the all the bishops who cowtowed to Henry VIII?

Yes, the Anglican Bishops didn't come from a tradition strong enough that it produced leaders like Pilla. Or Popes like Alexander VI or John XII.

18 posted on 12/15/2007 8:13:04 AM PST by PAR35
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