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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
"Ask yourself - was born or is He self existent?"

The answer, of course, is both. Your continued insistence on separating Jesus the Man from Jesus, God indicates your desire to force the Mystery of the Incarnation into the bounds of your own human logic. 'There is a way which seems right to man.' But God's ways are above our understanding. Hence my 'fixation' on Mary as Mother of God. This title was given to Mary precisely because of the horrid heresies that arose when others -following the same path down which you are skipping- also decided to apply their finite human logic to the actions of our infinite God.

Frankly, throughout our discussion you have provided no scripture to support your views, relying instead on 'winging it' with your own human logic. In contrast, I have given scripture after scripture both to support traditional Christian orthodoxy and to refute your points. My hope is that in doing so I may bring you to a deeper, more full understanding of just who Our Lord Jesus Christ truly is -One Person with two natures, Human and Divine.

88 posted on 12/11/2007 2:08:03 PM PST by AlguyA
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To: AlguyA

In my post #22 I referred Colossians chapter 2 (to show Christ as creator) and Philippians chapter 2 (to show how he “took upon Himself” human form).

God does not have a mother - if He did, He could not be “I AM”. He would be “son of Mary”. And that’s heresy.


90 posted on 12/11/2007 3:20:07 PM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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