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To: Greg F
Your all over the place here. Bottom line, if God says do it or God does it is not a sin, so you are using the word murder wrongly in this context.

So you're saying that what is evil is evil because God says it is evil? Then from whence our inalienable rights? If God can say at one point that killing helpless babies is an abomination and say at another point that killing helpless babies is a good and righteous act, what is the true value of that baby? It is dependent upon how God feels about it at that moment, therefore its right to life is not inalienable. I guess we can throw out that supposedly Judeo-Christian sentiment "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

91 posted on 11/28/2007 7:18:15 AM PST by ahayes ("Impenetrability! That's what I say!")
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To: ahayes

So you’re saying that what is evil is evil because God says it is evil? Then from whence our inalienable rights?
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Yes, it is evil because it is against God’s will. That is the key to it and what you personally don’t understand when you look at Old Testament history. Since God is all-knowing, all-powerful, unchanging, and loves us, then to act against his will is wrong. Once again, similar to altruism, without God there are no inalienable rights, only rights granted by the state or society as “it” (actually a man or group of men) see fit. There is no basis to say their preference for your suppression is not equal to your preference for your freedom except a form of utilitarian argument (which makes the right not “inalienable” but conditional).


96 posted on 11/28/2007 7:29:09 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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