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To: ahayes

I do not want others to hurt me.
I am not more valuable than any other Homo sapiens.
Therefore rationally I should treat others just as well as I treat myself.
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It doesn’t hold together. What does your desire not to be hurt have to do with the value of other people? And what does your desire not to be hurt, and your view that people are equally valuable (who sets that standard? God?) has nothing to do with how you treat them. Why shouldn’t you steal from someone equally valuable to you if it doesn’t hurt you? If you are just as good as they are, why shouldn’t you have the nice things they have?

Your argument regarding murder is also weak. It breaks down in the word murder. God does not command us not to kill. He commands us not to murder.


45 posted on 11/27/2007 2:32:54 PM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Greg F
It's a syllogism. Please attempt to demolish it logically.
  1. I do not want others to hurt me. (I trust you cannot disagree with that.)
  2. No Homo sapiens, including me, is more valuable than another. (If I show you a hundred petri dishes with a hundred human blastocysts, can you pick out the most inherently valuable one?)
  3. Therefore it is logically consistent to treat others as well as I treat myself. (Follows from 1 and 2.)

So far your only arguments have been from a failure to follow the train of thought. You wanted a rationally consistent basis for morality, I provided you with one,

78 posted on 11/28/2007 6:35:30 AM PST by ahayes ("Impenetrability! That's what I say!")
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To: Greg F
God does not command us not to kill. He commands us not to murder.

That loophole was good enough for Osama, so I guess it's good enough for you.

481 posted on 12/10/2007 6:53:04 AM PST by steve-b (Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense. --RAH)
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