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To: Abigail Adams

it was all watered down crap. Basically the church has to decided their new thing is to as the church serve in ministry outside of the church by doing things like service projects where they go and help build a house in a poor neighborhood for a homeless mother and kids or something bigger, or smaller like that. But you have to understand that is a wonderful thing and I’m so for that, but that is it. That it all the pastor teaches on every Sunday. It is the same sermon over and over about how we should give our money and time to service till it feels good. He says that is what the great commission is about. I agree that the great commission is about service to others and to love others, but that is all he says it is about. He leaves out that the great commission is to actually tell others about Christ. He says that the only way to tell others about Christ is to serve.

The church no longer speaks about sin, repentance, nor teaches people about how to tell others about Christ. They have exchanged that for a watered down feel good Let’s all go serve together and have peace on earth crap!

My pastor loves Rick Warren and feels how the church can contribute to making a difference is to serve others, not telling people verbally about Christ. There is no Bible teaching.

The funny thing is that they have had to stop a popular children’s ministry in the church because they didn’t have enough volunteers and workers to keep the program going. WHY? Because the pastor is too busy trying to get the church to serve outside of the church, and not teaching the people the Bible, which is what gets people to serve in the first place.

Telling people to serve doesn’t get them to serve, feeding them the word does.

The church isn’t growing and is in massive debt. It will only be a matter of time before it collapses. It is a large church, almost mega church in the Dallas/Ft.Worth area, but the numbers are getting smaller each and every Sunday.

Check on the churches link! I think what you will see is exactly what I’m trying to say. It is no longer a church that teaches how to know Christ and to make Him known, it is a church that teaches only about how to serving and giving. Typical emergent and purpose driven teaching style.

http://www.irvingbible.org/


26 posted on 11/25/2007 9:45:15 AM PST by Halls (I hate illegals, I hate socialism, I hate liberals! What else can I say?)
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To: Halls

There are a number of good churches in the Metroplex, and even more that are better than your current church sounds. If you want to freepmail me your current church, or what part of the metroplex would be convenient, and I’ll be happy to come up with a few suggestions that you could try.


31 posted on 11/25/2007 4:43:19 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Halls

Thanks for posting the link to that video. We watched half of it last Sunday, and the other half today. Very interesting and eye-opening stuff!

The information in the video makes it clear that many churches, like the one you went to, are community-service oriented, which fits in with the government’s and UN’s agenda. The great commission is not about serving others:

{{Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in[a] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”}}

It is about sharing the Gospel!


75 posted on 12/02/2007 10:33:09 AM PST by Abigail Adams
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