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To: Dixie Yooper
I think that you misunderstand the place of music in the Catholic liturgy. Properly we should not be singing AT the liturgy, but rather singing THE LITURGY. Music at the liturgy is meant to support the words of the prayers. Thus the distinction between sacred music and religious music.

As for Handel's Hallelujah, being a fan of classical music, I am sure that Pope Benedict is a great fan. This does not mean that is should be sung at a liturgy. At a special concert in praise of God, by all means!

… his statement about Protestants not being real Christians.

The Pope never said that Protestants were not real Christians, but rather that their ecclesial gatherings were not true churches. This flows from the Catholic belief that a church is a divine institution based upon Apostolic succession of Holy Orders and centered around the Eucharist (neither of which most Protestants claim they have). It is a question of Sacramental theology. As for being a real Christian, this comes from Baptism. Provided that the proper matter and form are used, the Catholic Church does indeed recognize that baptized Protestants are real Christians.

7 posted on 11/23/2007 6:09:43 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

It seems to me that a liturgy can be so out of date that it is an impediment to real worship. The Protestant churches have been having a transition to modern musical styles from the great hymns of the 1800’s and early 1900’s . . . traditionalists and older congregants like the old hymns because the words are so theologically sound and meaningful and the younger church members want music that they enjoy. When you freeze music for 100’s of years though, in my opinion, it becomes at best an acquired taste and at worst a form of worship that no longer leads to actual worship but just rote repetition . . .


8 posted on 11/23/2007 6:35:45 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Petrosius
As for Handel's Hallelujah, being a fan of classical music, I am sure that Pope Benedict is a great fan. This does not mean that is should be sung at a liturgy. At a special concert in praise of God, by all means!

Beat me to it - the Hallelujah Chorus, and indeed the whole of Messiah, is a gorgeous piece of music...but it is not liturgical music and would be utterly out of place at Mass.
9 posted on 11/23/2007 6:38:52 AM PST by FloreatIacobus
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