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To: Kolokotronis
The whole thing is quite hilarious, and Hilarion is full of double speak.

"we believe that all primates of the Local Churches are equal to one another, and none of them has jurisdiction over any other"

Then:

"representatives of the so-called Estonian Autonomous Church"

"There are a number of autonomous and autocephalous Churches which, for various reasons, are not universally recognized in the Orthodox world."

If the first statement above is true, why is there all this "so-called Church" talk, and a lack of universal recognition? This seems like Animal Farm. All local Churches are equal, but some are more equal than others. Has Moscow forgotten that it formed by breaking away from K'yiv?

"We do not have any theology of the Petrine office on the level of the Universal Church. Our ecclesiology does not have room for such a concept."

And perhaps that is why we see this amazing confusion of jurisdictions and petty infighting over utter nonsense in the Orthodox Church - no one at the top to guide the brotherhood in unity.

4 posted on 11/15/2007 9:00:58 AM PST by Andrew Byler
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To: Andrew Byler

“And perhaps that is why we see this amazing confusion of jurisdictions and petty infighting over utter nonsense in the Orthodox Church - no one at the top to guide the brotherhood in unity.”

Perhaps. But in all honesty, all we have is “petty infighting over utter nonsense”. With the infallible Vicar of Christ on Earth exercising immediate universal jurisdiction on the Roman Church, how to you explain the rot of apostasy and heresy which shoots through the Roman Church, especially in the West? Seems you Vicars of Christ on Earth have been major league, miserable failures for the past 40+ years. You really don’t want t argue that the Latins have shared brotherhood in unity the past few decades do you? Our silly little squabble pale to insignificance in light of what your system has created.


5 posted on 11/15/2007 3:33:13 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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