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To: editor-surveyor
There is a phrase in Mormonism 'as far as it is translated correctly' which LDS will occasionally admit to in their beliefs regarding the King James Bible. Having spent time reading the Joseph Smith so called 'translation' of the King James Bible (written in king james english, btw), I am amused that his fabrications from whole cloth are considered a 'better translation' ... he neither read nor comprehended Greek, Aramaic, or Hebrew so his 'translation' into King James English is pure fantasy and THAT is what is referred to stealthily as 'a better translation' by the deceivers pushing Mormonism and denigrating the Bible as not trustworthy 'because it is not translated correctly'.

If you would like links to the Smith 'translation' of the king james Bible, or a computer copy to peruse, let me know. I can also post the additions he made to Genesis 50 in order to fabricate a retroactive prophecy of his 'coming in these latter days' if you're interested in such deceit by Mormonism.

716 posted on 11/16/2007 1:48:16 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

I’m quite familar with mormon quirks; I was once married to a mormon. (she’s no longer a mormon either)


720 posted on 11/16/2007 1:51:01 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: MHGinTN

There is a phrase in Mormonism ‘as far as it is translated correctly’ which LDS will occasionally admit to in their beliefs regarding the King James Bible. Having spent time reading the Joseph Smith so called ‘translation’ of the King James Bible (written in king james english, btw), I am amused that his fabrications from whole cloth are considered a ‘better translation’ ... he neither read nor comprehended Greek, Aramaic, or Hebrew....

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It is correct the LDS accept the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly. You are in error about how Joseph Smith went about in preparing his translation of the Bible. He did study Greek and German so he could better understand the Bible, by reading other versions of the Bible. There are many corrections that are from Smith’s translation of the Bible that are footnoted in the KJV published by the LDS church. Most of his corrections are simple spelling and grammatical errors or completion of thoughts. There are significant changes in certain areas and naturally, they agree more with LDS teachings than others since it is believed that plain and precious parts of the Bible were lost at one time.


734 posted on 11/16/2007 2:18:36 PM PST by JoshM99
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To: MHGinTN
There is a phrase in Mormonism 'as far as it is translated correctly' which LDS will occasionally admit to in their beliefs regarding the King James Bible. Having spent time reading the Joseph Smith so called 'translation' of the King James Bible (written in King James english, btw), I am amused that his fabrications from whole cloth are considered a 'better translation' ... he neither read nor comprehended Greek, Aramaic, or Hebrew so his 'translation' into King James English is pure fantasy and THAT is what is referred to stealthily as 'a better translation' by the deceivers pushing Mormonism and denigrating the Bible as not trustworthy 'because it is not translated correctly'.

I guess, that would coincide with people occasionally posting on FR and admitting that they are a conservative.

Mormons are many things, but Shy about Joseph smith and his writings is not one of them. If a prophet is a prophet of God then who better to say what God meant in scripture? Moses wrote th first five books of the the Bible (that's why they are called the books of Moses) even though the Hebrews had books like the Book of Enoch, do you make fun of those?

Are all prophets "learned men"? Should they be?

The easiest way to know if Joseph is a prophet of God is to Put our religion to "The Test" as I describe on my page on FR:
Get a Book of Mormon and Get a bible, read both, pray about Both, see if God answers prayers about both.

Any honest dissenter of the church will tell you that God will tell you the Bible is true and the BOM is not, so they should be encouraging this test right along side us. Mormons would have to be nuts to offer free copies of the Book of Mormon, and the Bible (which contains the JST as foot notes) so people could compare them, if we are lying, we are digging a hole we cannot extricate ourselves from, if we are telling the truth then our detractors will do, and say anything to keep people from reading because they just might learn the truth and they would then know for themselves those telling them not to read have, well, a casual relationship with the truth.

If you would like links to the Smith 'translation' of the king James Bible, or a computer copy to peruse, let me know. I can also post the additions he made to Genesis 50 in order to fabricate a retroactive prophecy of his 'coming in these latter days' if you're interested in such deceit by Mormonism.

LOL, it's hardly a secret, it's on the LDS church's web site, here's a link: The Joseph smith translation of the King James Version Now this is just the pieces to big to fit in a footnote, most of the changes are small like Pharaoh hardening his hart instead of the lord hardening Pharaoh's heart, stuff like that.
735 posted on 11/16/2007 2:20:24 PM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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