[Colofornian]

Do you know who Mark Hoffman is? He is an excellent example of an anti Mormon, he grew up in he church, committed sins, went before his bishop and passed an interview for a mission (he lied and knew he was lying) and he went on his mission anyway, figuring that if he could lie to his bishop the church wasn't true (even though the doctrine is clear that God will allow men to chose to lie and reap the consequences) He returned from his mission, and pretended to be a good solid member, while forging documents designed to bring down the Church. We may never know (in this life) all the forgeries, so if I were an anti, I would be mad at him for muddying the water of anything I might find. In the end, he was so sure he was right he began murdering people with car bombs to cover his tracks (murdering for Jesus?) he was injured when one of his bombs went off in his car as he was transporting it, caught, tried and confessed all of this. I link to Wikipedia which has a brief description which differs in some minor details from my memory, but i do not consider them significant and am willing to go with Wikipedia on this if you have a problem my recitation, either will show you the lengths Anti Mormons will go to.

Boy, talk about deluded and desperate: I suppose every scandalous Mormon is in reality an "anti-Mormon" who are simply moles operating in conjunction as some vast right-wing conspiracy...how did you say it...oh, yeah designed to bring down the church.

What's most ironic with this statement is that it comes in a thread discussing ex-Mormons and even ex-communication. This kind of post-departure dissection is almost like an LDS spiritual exorcism: a spiritual post-mortem of Mormons gone bad is conducted, thereby allowing LDS to at least spiritually ex-communicate these folks after the fact. (That allows plausible denial...It's like saying, "See these scandalous Mormons were never really even Mormons at all; they were these wicked evil possessed anti-Mormons dressed in drag in disguise. There, we've dissected the problem & properly conducted a spiritual exorcism. See, he's not really part of our body!")

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Even better, when I have posted a thread of ex-Mormons, some of whom expressed suicidal tendencies, one of the apologists berated me for presenting the views of crazy people as evidence of Mormon brainwashing.

The apostates are always crazy, even though they’ve often been driven crazy by Mormonism.

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Do you know who Mark Hoffman is

He was the darling of the church though when he was "finding" documents that proved Mormonism, lol. The church elders were paying him hundreds of thousands of dollars when he brought them in, first happily and then when they proved embarassing, like the salamander incident, to hide them.

For lurkers who may not know, Hoffman went to libraries and stole rare books. He tore out the blank leaves and then using an ink that he made which resembled ink from the 1800's, he made up all sorts of phony documents.

When people caught on, well, he built bombs and tried to blow them up.